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wwe vs tnt anyone watching?

I'm very critical of the TNA product, but one thing I will give them is that they know how to build very talented guys (and gals) who were abused or ignored in WWE.

I wouldn't say that former WWE talent have been built well, but as for those who have had more success in TNA, I can't disagree that TNA has been more accommodating in it's creative department

Off the top of my head...

Matt Morgan (2003-2005) - midcarder in WWE/main eventer in TNA
Frankie Kazarian (2005) - lower carder in WWE/upper midcarder in TNA
Rhino (2001-2004) - upper midcarder in WWE/main eventer in TNA
Raven (2000-2002) - midcarder in WWE/main eventer in TNA
Gail Kim (2004-2005/2008-2011) - lower carder in WWE/main eventer in TNA
Jerry Lynn (2001-2002) - lower midcarder in WWE/upper midcarder in TNA
Christian (1998-2005/2011-present) - upper midcarder and irregular main eventer in WWE/continuous main eventer in TNA
Jeff Jarrett (1994-1996/1998-2000) - upper midcarder in WWE/continuous main eventer in TNA
Mr Anderson (2005-2008) - upper midcarder in WWE/main eventer in TNA
D'Angelo Dinero (2006-2008) - lower midcarder in WWE/upper midcarder in TNA
Tara (2001-2008) - midcarder in WWE/main eventer in TNA
Winter (2007-2010) - lower midcarder in WWE/upper midcarder in TNA
Monty Brown (2007-2008) - midcarder in WWE/upper midcarder in TNA
Ken Shamrock (1997-2000) - upper midcarder in WWE/main eventer in TNA
Low Ki (2010) - lower midcarder in WWE/upper midcarder in TNA
Bully Ray (1999-2005) - upper midcarder in WWE/main eventer in TNA
Brother D'Von (1999-2005) - upper midcarder in WWE/main eventer in TNA
Konnan (1992) - lower midcarder in WWE/upper midcarder in TNA

Yeah, I have to admit many of these guys weren't ignored or abused in WWE, but otherwise you make my point rather nicely by citing example.
 
So that's how they reveal Mick? How anti-climatic. As expected this Raw is starting off boring...ugh.


that was bad really about as bad as michael cole and jr set up.hopefully RAW will heat back up after survivor series.

though I did like how cm punk put him in that submission ;
:guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw:
 
As I thought this Raw has been boring as hell so far. That was an utterly pointless Nash segment. He comes out to give the big boot and a jackknife to Santino (burying him some more too) and then brags about how he put Trips out again? Meh. I'm sorry but the WWE has lost me I think. Also what the hell was the point of calling this Raw Got Rocked when we've seen him like twice so far?
 
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I thought this was one of Raw's recent better shows in terms of non-wrestling entertainment. The chemistry that Cena, Rock, Truth and Miz have together is (pun intended) "electric". I initially thought that the Cena/Rock feud was drained of momentum, but from the audiences interest shown tonight, it's clearly still going strong. I think that the year long build to the Wrestlemania 28 match could be one of the best things that WWE has accomplished in years.
 
The crowds in Massachusetts and the nearby states are often really into the action, I think this was one of the reasons they decided to hold The Rock's return on Raw there and because it's pretty close to MSG so I'd also imagine a lot of the people going to Survivor Series were present in the crowd tonight.

The best places that WWE can hold events are in Chicago, Toronto and Montreal because they usually prompt brutally honest audience reactions and it's often the heels who are favoured in matches over the heels. In Canada, the audience are known for passionately getting into the in-ring action and Canadian wrestlers, no matter what position they are on the roster, get incredible reactions.
 
I think Bobby Roode's new theme is absolutely awesome, despite the fact it uses the exact same chord sequence as Madison Rayne's during the intro/chorus! It's the theme of a champion!
 
yep his and was from canada and was part of team canada. I miss them too that was
one of the best things from the early day's of tna and wcw.
 
Pretty good RAW, I thought. The whole Jim Ross/Cole thing is seriously pissing me off though. If Ross wants to work, can we just go ahead and put him back in the goddamn booth? Please? I'd like this silliness to end.
 
Really people were entertained by Raw? Wow. I dunno. I guess there were some entertaining bits but really this was over hyped and mis billed. Rock appeared a total of three times. Not sure what I was expecting but it was a little more than three times. Not only that but he and Cena managed to bury The Awesome Truth...it seems they're being used for comedic fodder right now, although I thought it important to note that Miz said that Survivor Series would be remembered so I think we will FINALLY and Admiral Young means FINALLY see this conspiracy angle move forward a little bit.
 
Let's play the Survivor Series game.

Survivor Series Card (As it currently stands)

The Miz and R-Truth vs. the Rock and John Cena

Alberto Del Rio (c) vs. CM Punk for the WWE Championship

Mark Henry (c) vs. Big Show for the World Heavyweight Championship

Team Barret (Wade Barret, Cody Rhodes, Jack Swagger, Huncio, and Dolph Ziggler) vs. Team Orton (Randy Orton, Sheamus, Mason Ryan, Kofi Kingston, and Sin Cara)

Beth Phoenix (c) vs. Eve

I'm guessing that the winners will be...

Rock and Cena (yeah, I know, this is a no-brainer)

CM Punk (Del Rio has had the title long enough)

Mark Henry (I doubt that both titles will change hands, knowing me though, Punk will lose and Show will win)

Team Orton (his team as way too many beasts compared to Barret's team)

Beth Phoenix (I think beth will retain, I don't have a firm reason as to why)
 
The Awesome Truth Vs The Rock and Cena will result in a DQ with the Rock and Cena ending up brawling outside the ring as they build up their feud for Wrestlemania. Something will happen that will play up the conspiracy angle here.

CM Punk Vs Alberto Del Rio (c) WWE Title match

I think Del Rio will win. As much as I'd love to see the belt back on Punk...I don't think that is going to happen due to story line reasons.

The Big Show Vs Mark Henry (c) WWE World Heavyweight Championship

This will end with Henry beating Show. I don't see them taking the belt off Henry yet. They want to and should continue to build him up as a monster heel champion. Possibly could end in a DQ.

Team Barret Vs Team Orton

This one is difficult. We could see the formation of Vicky's stable in this match. I can see Orton's team dropping this match if that is the case. If not then Orton's team wins.

Eve Vs Beth Phoenix (c)

Beth retains and we get this match again next PPV LOL

I also see Nash being a part of this somehow...perhaps he gets himself involved in the WWE title match. Possibly could see Trips return as a "Surprise" to build up a possible match between these two. John L will be involved in the Punk match for sure.
 
I think beth will keep it till wm and as for the rock/cena vs the awesome truth. I am up for Dq on the awesome truth through some outside interfearence aka <(kevin nash).
 
Let's see... Survivor Series eh?

The Rock and John Cena vs. The Awesome Truth
Mark Henry vs. The Big Show - New World Heavyweight Champion
Alberto Del Rio vs. CM Punk - via DQ or countout or something where ADR retains
Dolph Ziggler vs. John Morrison - Dolph retains the US title
Eve vs. Beth Phoenix - Beth retains the Diva's title
Team Orton vs. Team Barrett

I have this horrible feeling that WWE creative have decided that Big Show must go over in his match against Mark Henry. I don't really mind Big Show being a world champion because it's something that happens irregulary and when he has the belt, he's actually believable in the role. The same thing goes for Mark Henry and they've done a really good job building him, but I have a feeling they might strap Big Show at Survivor Series. If this does happen, I look for Henry to regain the championship either in the weeks leading up to TLC - or at the event itself.

It's still too soon for them to take the WWE Championship of Alberto Del Rio, but at the same time they need to keep CM Punk strong as he's arguably the top babyface in the company. I'm thinking a DQ or countout in Punk's favour which means that Del Rio doesn't win, but still walks out as champion.

The Rock/Cena vs. Awesome Truth match is incredibly predictable. I look for The Rock and John Cena to go over, with a confrontation following the conclusion of the match. It would be epic for Cena to turn heel in, or after the match, but we all know this is very unlikely to happen!
 
I know it seems easy to pick Cena and Rock to go over in this match but it really makes no logical sense and only further hurts the Awesome Truth in my opinion and I'm really not being a mark here. It makes sense story line wise if it ends in a DQ. Something will happen where Cena and Rock will turn on each other. Some kind of misunderstanding or perhaps a missed move against the other. Let's put it this way...if Punk and Cena go over cleanly then I'm probably not watching WWE for a long while. Oh and I think we're all forgetting a possible wild card on the PPV in Mick Foley. I think they could involve him somehow.
 
I know it seems easy to pick Cena and Rock to go over in this match but it really makes no logical sense and only further hurts the Awesome Truth in my opinion and I'm really not being a mark here. It makes sense story line wise if it ends in a DQ. Something will happen where Cena and Rock will turn on each other. Some kind of misunderstanding or perhaps a missed move against the other. Let's put it this way...if Punk and Cena go over cleanly then I'm probably not watching WWE for a long while. Oh and I think we're all forgetting a possible wild card on the PPV in Mick Foley. I think they could involve him somehow.

That'd be great if Mick Foley got involved somehow.

I actually think you're pretty close to the mark on this one, and I wouldn't be surprised in the least if it went down exactly as you say it will.

I certainly don't think it's a no-brainer who's going to win this thing.
 
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