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Wow. I wonder how they're going to write him out or explain his absence. I'm guessing injury angle after their tag team match last night.
 
There is talk about marijuana being the cause around some of the websites, but WWE doesn't suspend for marijuana - they fine talent $2,500 for every failure. This policy includes marijuana substitutes and so called "legal highs".

Although it's rare, a talent could be prescribed testosterone in order to help with the healing of an injury. It's ok if a talent can provide satisfactory evidence that they were prescribed testosterone, but if they cannot provide evidence - even if they were prescribed it - then they will have to accept the fixed days suspension.
 
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I wasn't gonna watch RAW...kinda getting tired of it...but it was alright. Loved the Muppet stuff...the only match I enjoyed was Cena & Miz...with R-Truth in the Scream mask attacking Cena...but they have to give it to John...whatevs. :p
 
John Piermarini has given up on his Creative Recall blog. It seems he's had a hissy fit over the current programming and decided just to give up. This really winds me up!

Piermarini is a former member of WWE Creative and he's actually a decent blogger. I don't buy everything he says, but he's certainly got a lot of interesting things to say about the business.

Edit: It seems that Air Boom will be dropping the WWE Tag Team Championship tonight at the Smackdown taping. One has to wonder who they will be losing to, although I have a few likely suggestions...

Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger - This would be my choice if I was booking because neither of them has been a tag team champion (Dolph was technically in the Spirit Squad but this doesn't really count) and it would be a good step in the right direction for them getting over as a team.

Wade Barrett and Cody Rhodes - Neither really needs it because they are both working well as singles wrestlers. Cody certainly doesn't need another tag team title reign and I'm still confident he's on his way to the main event.

The Miz and R-Truth - This seems most likely, although if they do win it would spoil the Survivor Series tag team match because Rock and Cena won't be winning the titles unless Rock relenquishes it on the following Raw.
 
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No one else thinks the whole thing between Nash and Trips the past two weeks is ridiculous? This is border line TNA crap now. I'm pretty much fed up with how things have been over the last month. Whatever it is they are doing it is no longer interesting and they are prolonging it longer than it needed to be to reach pay off. I probably wont watch Raw until the three hour special in a couple weeks.
 
HHH & Nash is ridiculous...it is irrelevant. Unless they have a big payoff at Survivor Series...which I am sure they won't...it is a waste...we shall see.
 
HHH & Nash is ridiculous...it is irrelevant. Unless they have a big payoff at Survivor Series...which I am sure they won't...it is a waste...we shall see.

I don't even know if Kevin Nash is capable of wrestling to the level of Triple H anymore. A few years back he could stretch to it on a really good day, nowaways though it seems that his injuries have caught up with him to the point his opponent will have to do most of the work.

I suppose they could cover for Nash by booking a street fight or a no-holds barred. The no-holds barred worked well at Wrestlemania because it allowed Undertaker to still work an exciting match despite the fact he still wasn't 100% (and probably won't ever be) recovered from his shoulder injury. I'm confident that Undertaker has got a few more matches left in him, especially now that he's taken an extended leave.

Anyway, back to Nash. I'm not sure if the current angle is the one that WWE intended when Nash first made his presence felt back at Summerslam. Most of us were under the assumption that it was going to lead to a Triple H heel turn, with Nash aligning himself with Triple H and John Laurinaitis against the likes of John Cena and CM Punk with the Punk/Triple H match occuring at Survivor Series. Instead, it seems that they've gone with Nash turning heel and aligning himself with John Laurinaitis and betraying Triple H because Trips decided to play fairly and not screw CM Punk.

Where does the feud between Triple H and Kevin Nash go from here? Obviously they will have a match or two and one man (Triple H) will come out on top, but where does that leave Nash? Does Nash turn face and settle his differences with Triple H? Does Nash remain heel and finally acknowledge that he's been working with John Laurinaitis in order to force Triple H out? Does Nash just disappear from WWE TV with little or no reason? I'd like to think that WWE will still reach where they started with this entire storyline, but I'm not particulary confident about it.

If I was booking, I'd have John Laurinaitis come out after Triple H and Kevin Nash's match and reveal that the WWE board of directors has fired Triple H from the COO position and replaced him with Laurinaitis. Laurinaitis then reveals that he was working his way into that position, but he also reveals that he's not the mastermind behind it all and that he's merely doing his duty to ensure that WWE continues the way that the board of directors want it to continue. Laurinaitis will then reveal his associates...

Kevin Nash (because Triple H didn't take his side and Laurinaitis promised him the chance to be a big player again)
Alberto Del Rio and Ricardo Rodriguez (because the Summerslam attack was arranged by Laurinaitis and Nash so Del Rio could cash in, in exchange for his loyalty)
The Miz (because Triple H fired him and Laurinatis rehired him in exchange for his loyalty)
R-Truth (because Triple H fired him and Laurinaitis rehired him in exchange for his loyalty)
Michael Cole (because he's Michael Cole)
Cody Rhodes (because he saw an opportunity to further himself in the WWE)
Christian (because he saw an opportunity to further himself in the WWE)
Wade Barrett (because he saw an opportunity to further himself in the WWE)
Jack Swagger (because he saw an opportunity to further himself in the WWE)
Dolph Ziggler (because he saw an opportunity to further himself in the WWE)
Vickie Guerrero (because she saw an opportunity to further herself in the WWE)
Mark Henry (because Laurinaitis encouraged him towards the World Heavyweight Championship)

Of course, there could be others but these names seem the most likely to join Laurinaitis. Laurinaitis would then declare that he and his associate have decided that the WWE needs to move in a more corporate direction - something which even Vince McMahon tried and failed to achieve. Vince would then walk out and give a long speech about how he still owns the company, yet has the power to do nothing about Laurinaitis..almost nothing. Vince would then reveal that he went to the board of directors and persuaded them that Laurinaitis cannot fire the likes of Triple H, John Cena and CM Punk without a just reason and that he also recommended to them the perfect person to fill the Raw GM spot - Mick Foley.

You could then have Vince demand that Laurinaitis gets his associate out there so he can face the person who is trying to destroy the company he built. Laurinaitis, frustrated by Vince's meddling would order security to remove Vince. Vince would escort himself out, content in knowing that Foley and the contract immunity arragements are enough to ensure that Laurinaitis' plans are ruined.

This would then kick off a major storyline where Laurinaitis' corporation feuds with the rest of the WWE, particulary Triple H, Cena and Punk. Throughout the course of the storyline you have people switching sides and the brands being reformed with one being called WWE and the other - WWE Corporate. Raw and Smackdown would continue to be supershows and talent would still have matches regardless of alignment. Eventually, Laurinaitis associate would be revealed and this would result in the match to regain control of the WWE - with the WWE winning and the company being left unified with one brand and Laurinaitis fired (kayfabe because he'd still be the EVP of Talent Relations).
 
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I predicted they could book a street fight a couple of weeks ago. Nash and Trips is being set up for Survivor Series. I don't really see anything else that could actually work. Whatever the case Trips is going to have to carry the match. Everyone I've talked to seriously thinks Nash can't do very much for fear of blowing out his knees or back again. The fact that he has already pulled off a couple of power bombs already since his return has made my friends and I cringe.

I dunno. I'm just extremely disgruntled right now. They had something really special and cool now they have just "kewl" and boring. I'm not interested in "kewl".
 
I've just edited my post to include my idea of where they could have (or still could) gone with this currently messy storyline.

ETA: Laurinaitis' associate could be anyone from Paul Heyman to Vince McMahon himself (if you don't include Vince in the storyline and instead have Triple H reveal that he persuaded the board to give him and the others immunity and hire Mick Foley). Oh and all the members of the corporate faction would wear suits whenever they weren't wrestling and come out to Vince McMahon's theme just because!

You could even have Laurinaitis given his own personal security team comprised of FCW wrestlers and hired stunmen following him wherever he goes and surrounding the ring when he gets inside it to cut a promo.
 
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It still seems like they're going in the direction of bringing back the nWo (I am convinced that guy Punk nodded to in the Hollywood Hogan "costume" was a mark of somekind) but it just taking too long.
 
I think it would defeat the purpose of the whole angle if they brought back the nWo. Here's why...

The nWo were initially a heel stable, but within a year they were being cheered by the majority of the audience. The shirts sold like wildfire and many members of the stable started to act like classic babyfaces. The nWo have been cheered ever since and it won't be any different if they bring them back now.

Of course, what if Laurinaitis siezes control of the WWE and the likes of Triple H, John Cena and CM Punk are fired and return as a face nWo stable? That would be much more fitting and more in league with their characters - protesting the direction that Laurinaitis is driving the company towards. Triple H could even cease control of Smackdown and rename it "nWo Friday" with most of the face talent joining the stable and the heels moving to Raw to be with Laurinaitis.
 
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Yeah we've had this disagreement before about the new world order. I've already expressed my own personal reasons why I'd like to see them back so I won't repeat them again. I also wouldn't mind a totally new heel stable which is what also seems to be what is happening.

There is no reason whatsoever why a rebirth nWo would need to be a face stable just because they're going to be cheered. Look at John Cena for a prime example. He is a face and gets booed as a heel. Anyway this wouldn't be a literal duplicate of the original story line as I've also explained before. It is a mute point right now but it is adding to my frustration that nothing is being paid off. They just keep building and building. This only serves to frustrate and turn people off from watching.
 
Any type of new nWo involving Nash will suck...it is old and tired...if they do a new "nWo" with Miz & Truth...they will need a iconic guy like Hogan was back then with them...who could that be? Who fits with Miz & Truth? I can see Stephanie in the Bischoff role...but finding that 3rd piece to Miz & Truth is crucial...and adding more members is irrelevant until there is the 3 main guys. JMHO.
 
If they went with a face nWo, the roster could look something like this...

Raw - Corporation: Alberto Del Rio, Brodus Clay, Christian, Cody Rhodes, David Otunga, Dolph Ziggler, Hunico, Jack Swagger, Kane, Kevin Nash, Mark Henry, The Miz, Michael Cole (commentator/stooge), Michael McGillicuty, R-Truth, Ricardo Rodriguez (manager), Vickie Guerrero (manager), Wade Barrett

Smackdown - nWo: Big Show, Booker T (commentator/occasional wrestler), CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Evan Bourne, Ezekiel Jackson, Hornswoggle (manager), John Cena, John Morrison, Kofi Kingston, Mason Ryan, Randy Orton, Sheamus, Ted Dibiase, Teddy Long (manager), Triple H, William Regal (manager/occasional wrestler), Zack Ryder

Neutral - WWE:
AJ, Aksana, Alex Riley, Alicia Fox, Beth Phoenix, Brie Bella, Curt Hawkins, Drew Macintyre, Eve, Heath Slater, Jerry Lawler (commentator), Jey Uso, Jim Ross (commentator), Jimmy Uso, JTG, Jinder Mahal, Josh Matthews (commentator), Kaitlyn, Kelly Kelly, Natalya, Nikki Bella, Primo, Rosa Mendes, Santino Marella, Scott Sanford (commentator), Tamina, Trent Barretta, Tyler Reks, Tyson Kidd, Yoshi Tatsu

Referee's for the most part would remain unbiased, although the Corporation could easily have their own personal referree, a'la Nick Patrick and the original nWo.

The injured or inactive wrestlers that return could be put in storylines where each faction tries to persuade
the wrestler to join them. The heels would naturally join the Corporation, although a couple may decide to remain neutral whilst the faces would be split between the nWo and being neutral.

As for titles...

WWE Championship - Initially Corporate held (Alberto Del Rio as champion)
World Heavyweight Championship - Initially nWo held and spray painted (Big Show as champion)
Intercontinental Championship - Initially nWo held and spray painted (Sin Cara as champion)
United States Championship - Initially Corporate held (Dolph Ziggler as champion)
WWE Tag Team Championship - WWE held but open to all factions (The Miz and R-Truth as champions)
Diva's Championship - WWE held but open to all factions (Beth Phoenix as champion)

The 4 men's single titles would be part of the struggle of power, with the Corporation claiming the WWE and US titles and the nWo claiming the WHC and IC titles. If a wrestler from one faction won a title from another he would bring that title to his faction - but have to defend it against all factions.

The Tag Team and Diva's titles would be fixed to WWE and couldn't be claimed by any faction, although they canbe won by anyone of any faction.
 
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Whatever the direction they are going in...I just hope they are able to do something interesting with it and right now it is not. Maybe if Punk recaptures the WWE Title at Survivor Series it will recapture my attention. Fans still chant his name and are still over for him as a face and anti-hero. Cena as champion is simply BORING and that being said I am enjoying Del Rio as champion...I'd like to see a Del Rio/Punk feud without Cena involved. Sigh...Super Cena.
 
What ever happens the WWE will most likely botch it. :)

[edit] I brought this up with AY in a PM...Awesome Sock Truth anyone? :p
 
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