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wwe vs tnt anyone watching?

I was a huge wrestling fan as a kid in the 80's, all the way thru the Attitude era. I stopped watching regularly in the early part of the 2000's as all the attitude stars were retiring (Rock, Austin, Foley, Lesnar), and the 80's stars began dying, or getting too old to perform well (Hogan, Nash, Sting, Flair ...Foley).

I still enjoy the "sport" of wrestling. A well done match is fun whether it's a story driven WWE style bout, full of psychology and character; a lucha style acrobatics display; or even an ECW style garbage fest. Few matches are given more then 5-10 minutes now, though, so good "Wrasslin" matches are almost non-existent nowadays. That leaves drama and character to sell the product... Problem is (and The Rock's appearance just drove this home for me), the current WWE has literally no true main eventers. Honestly, none. HHH is an upper-midcard talent at best, who has risen up thru the ranks by longetivity, backstabbing, and humping the bosses daughter. The Undertaker is OK, but is a niche performer at best. Ratings, buyrates, etc have always suffered when he is made the focus of the company and this dates back all the way to the 90's. I acknowledge that kids love John Cena, and he is the closest thing they have to a star, but I just do not see it. I am not impressed by his in-ring work, his character, his look, his mic-skills. none of it. Who else? Randy Orton? Seamus? The Miz? CM Punk? None of them are terrible, but none of them has the "It Factor" like Hogan/Flair/Savage/Andre in the 80's, or Austin/Rock/Foley in the Attitude era. Seeing The Rock just drove this home for me. It was nice to see him back, but it just made me depressed at the current state of the product, that I have no reason to watch right now if Rocky isn't on the screen.

For the record, I have never watched a whole TNA broadcast, but from what I can tell from the recaps online, their booking is about as nonsensical as the dying days of WCW, with much of the same roster. I have seen some Samoa Joe matches, and was intrigued, but not overwhelmed.

I will close on one point. I acknowledge the possibility that a genuine star is on the WWE roster, and has not been booked to his potential. I fully remember that all of my examples of the it factor (Rock - Rocky Maivia, Austin - The Ringleader, etc) toiled in the midcard for months, even years before they were given the ball and they ran with it. And this is why I still follow the product, albeit casually, because I would be first in line to come back when there's a good reason to watch,
 
Been a long time since WWE got me genuinely excited and electrified! I had total chills when his music hit and during his promo, huge nostalgia rush
 
You know I've been thinking about the current batch who could be up to the quality of an Austin and Rock, and I wonder if they worked on The Miz some, could he do it in maybe a year or 2? I mean one of the things that got me into wrestling back in 1999-2000 wasn't the wrestling, but it was the entertainment factor of it. That's probably why I liked The Rock and Austin the most was because I was always entertained and laughed when they did something funny. Heck, last night I went onto youtube and sought some old Rock Clips and one of my favorite clips ever was when the WWE was in Sacramento and the Rock made fun of Sacramento, and Austin and his famous line was about the Lakers beating the Kings in May. I mean that thing went on for a good 10 minutes and every minute kept my attention.

Anyway back to the Miz, I've really liked what they've done with him in the last year. I like the whole Michael Cole having his back angle, but I just think maybe he could be that new "it" factor that the WWE needs. Either him or maybe even Alberto Del Rio, who I find pretty good on the mic.
 
" alberto del rio is my name but of course you already know that ."

Basicaly he's the spanish version of JBL .

As for the miz he does make a great heel . I just can't stand him.
 
I was never a huge Eddie fan, but I recognize the talent. I was a HUGE Benoit mark, but now I feel almost dirty for admitting that. I know, I know, concussion syndrome, brain damage, blah blah blah... doesn't change that he committed a horrible atrocity.

A couple of weeks ago I was showing a non-fan friend of mine some of Foley's matches from his hits and misses DVD, and I was stunned to realize how many people from the matches are dead: Chris Candido, Owen, Bulldog, Pillman, Big Bossman, Test, Curt Hennig, Rick Rude... just an absolutely unbelievable amount of very talented people who were heroes of mine in childhood that are gone.
 
Looks like the WWE will be pushing Undertaker Vs HHH at Wrestlemania 28 in a possible Streak Vs Retirement Match with Shawn Michaels as the special guest ref. That's the latest rumor.
 
" alberto del rio is my name but of course you already know that ."

Basicaly he's the spanish version of JBL .

As for the miz he does make a great heel . I just can't stand him.

And how many wrestlers have stolen gimmicks from other wrestlers in the history of wrestling (Or even WWE). I'm sure it's happened once or twice.

Still, I was only talking potential. They're not there yet of course, but I am entertained by ADR and The Miz more than say Undertaker, Mysterio, or Cena. Of course I'm not up on the whole Wrestling thing as much as others seem to be but just offering my two cents, as a casual fan.
 
Looks like the WWE will be pushing Undertaker Vs HHH at Wrestlemania 28 in a possible Streak Vs Retirement Match with Shawn Michaels as the special guest ref. That's the latest rumor.

That might be a worthwhile match, actually.

Look for Shawn to screw 'Taker. Or HHH... really, its anybody's call.
 
I can't bare to watch WWE. Last time I saw it, they were trying desperately wring every penny they could from Eddie's corpse:ack:. TNA is often incredibly stupid and nonsensical (even by wrestling bizarro-world standards) but it has the advantage of not taking itself too seriously and being much faster-paced. The Kurt/Karen/Jeff stuff recently has been (often hilarious) fun. Ray and Devon's feud has been enjoyable too. It's on in the background rather than watched intently.

I lovee Botchamania on youtube! The Iron Shiek's "FUCK!" and "FUCKIN' BOOL SHIT!" are burned into my brain.
 
I'm tired of Family Feud or aka TNA. It's just not interesting or fun for me. I was actually stunned when I learned that Karen and Jeff were married lol. I was like WTF did that happen?

I really don't like the notion of an Undertaker Vs HHH match. HHH doesn't really job any more, and just coming back after a lengthy absence too. I also don't think Undertaker would want to give up his Streak to HHH of all people. I don't like this match up at all.
 
The Karen/Jeff/Kurt thing has all the makings of another double murder suicide.

WTF is TNA thinking pushing that(no pun intended)angle?!?

:eek:
 
It amuses me. "I'll give you custody of your kids if you beat me!":guffaw:

TNA isn't meant to be taken seriously. It's Kurt and Jeff, two of the most influential guys in the company - they never would have done the storyline if they weren't comfortable doing it.
 
^ It doesn't matter if they're comfortable doing it. Whatever. They should consider the fact if the audience is comfortable with the program, that's who they're selling it to in the first place. TNA should take it's self more seriously, that's part of the problem as well. Their silly, immature story lines are BORING and don't entertain anyone. They have a potential criminal for a World Heavyweight Champion right now (Yeah I'm talking about Jeff Hardy) while RVD is brushed aside. They've got all kinds of problems right now and until they acknowledge them things aren't going to improve and change.
 
what they did to RVD was total bull $#!t . He has more charisma in his little finger than jeff hardy . jeff is a great wrestler but as a heel he suck donkey balls. His brother matt is a way better heel but they went with jeff .

Now did anybody see smackdown # 600 ?

teddy long is back fired dolph rehired the rated r superstar .now he has to rehire kelly , kelly. Vicki is such a total bitch hate her . But her Husband was a fantastic wrestler and inspiring personality I greatly miss him . And what happened to Chris Beniote I think that is how you spell his last name , anyway what happened to him and his famliy was traggic .

I was dissapointed that the ROCK was not on his show.
 
I didn't think Rock would be on Smackdown even for the anniversary, I think he's just going to be on Raw since that is where Cena and Miz are. I read the spoilers for Smackdown and wasn't impressed.
 
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