WTF Is Wrong About Ensigne Tyler?

[Trekker4747]

In that rare circumstance it would be but, presumably, you wouldn't base or build a relationship on the odd chance that something might happen to cause the one or two instances where you'd butt heads. Picard's and Crusher's authority rarely overlap or conflict, unless there's a medical emergency planetside or shipside which in the grand scheme of things rarely happens when you consider over the course of seven years we only see it happen a handful of times making just a few days.

In the case with Geordi and the Ensign under his command he has to deal with her and manage her every day, all of the time, over specific things as she is under his direct and active control; she can't make a single decision without his input; Crusher can operate virtually autonomously (again, unless there's a shipwide or otherwise major crisis going on.)

Picard dating Crusher could cause some conflict, favoritism and possibly the same situation that occurred with Darren, but the conflict isn't nearly as great as it would have been for Geordi dating a direct subordinate.

 

[PKS8304]

wait....Orac wtf is Kirk holding in your avatar???

 

[GalaxyX]

The episode doesn't play it off as Geordi not wanting to date a subordinate, but rather as he's annoyed by the attention she is giving him.

He didn't have a problem seeking a relationship with Ensign Gomez, which also was his subordinate.

Picard was stupid. So the woman he likes has a chance of dying on a starfleet mission like everyone else on the ship, including him, and this is his reason for kicking her off the ship? I just chalk it up to the fact that they wanted him out of the relationship by the end of the episode, so the status quo would have been maintained.

wait....Orac wtf is Kirk holding in your avatar???

A stalagmite

 

[tighr]

I just chalk it up to the fact that they wanted him out of the relationship by the end of the episode, so the status quo would have been maintained.

I agree. Otherwise, they wouldn't have introduced her (not only a Lt. Cmdr, but a department head no less) in the exact same episode!!

At least on Voyager they introduced the audience to Vorik a few times before the episode that focused on his pon farr. Probably one of the few things Voyager did right!

 

[GalaxyX]

I just chalk it up to the fact that they wanted him out of the relationship by the end of the episode, so the status quo would have been maintained.

I agree. Otherwise, they wouldn't have introduced her (not only a Lt. Cmdr, but a department head no less) in the exact same episode!!

At least on Voyager they introduced the audience to Vorik a few times before the episode that focused on his pon farr. Probably one of the few things Voyager did right!

I know many people will disagree, but I think Voyager handled relationships the best out of all Trek series. I loved the slow buildup of Tom & B'elanna, where even in the first few episodes together, you could tell there was mutual interest, all the way to the final episode where Tom becomes a father. There were silly relationships too, like Neelix and Kes, but all Trek series suffer similar ones.

 

[Sho]

^ Agreed.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I just chalk it up to the fact that they wanted him out of the relationship by the end of the episode, so the status quo would have been maintained.

I agree. Otherwise, they wouldn't have introduced her (not only a Lt. Cmdr, but a department head no less) in the exact same episode!!

At least on Voyager they introduced the audience to Vorik a few times before the episode that focused on his pon farr. Probably one of the few things Voyager did right!

Actually they would. Remember TNG was episode not arc driven.

 

[GalaxyX]

I just chalk it up to the fact that they wanted him out of the relationship by the end of the episode, so the status quo would have been maintained.

I agree. Otherwise, they wouldn't have introduced her (not only a Lt. Cmdr, but a department head no less) in the exact same episode!!

At least on Voyager they introduced the audience to Vorik a few times before the episode that focused on his pon farr. Probably one of the few things Voyager did right!

Actually they would. Remember TNG was episode not arc driven.

TNG could have had many small arcs. They did try to bring events from earlier episodes to later ones. The "metaphasic shielding" was such an event. References to Tasha's death were common, and even an entire episode dealt with her sister.

In Picard's case, the writers probably felt that the audience couldn't handle a Picard in a relationship. It would have also required to pay the actress to show up in more episodes, perhaps in a recurring role.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Or they knew that in a week or two Picard would be meeting someone else.

Referring to past episodes is continuity, not an arc.

 

[Praxius]

For a dude who's notorious for weak game & limited prospects, What's his problem with giving it a go with a woman with whom he can basically do no wrong?

It's been a long while since I've seen the episode, but wasn't she the one who idolised him, and was quasi-stalking him and wouldn't leave him alone?

Don't know about you, but I think he'd find it pretty creepy going out with her. Yeah, he'd get some, but she'd probably end up being a bunny boiler. And since Geordi doesn't have a bunny, I dread to think what she'd do to Data instead...

Agreed.... if he gave her a chance, the next thing would be her cutting a bit of his hair while he slept, and keeping it in a jar for her to sniff from time to time, or getting super jealous towards any woman who talked to him and started tossing the bodies into the Warp Nacelles.

Then again, perhaps Geordi just gave up on a relationship and took a page out of Barclay's book and just decided to stick to the holodeck women.

Geordi prefers white chicks.

What about Aquiel Uhnari?

He had telepathic nookie with her.

 

[GalaxyX]

Wasn't Geordi smitten with the black woman in "Aquiel"?

This is true. I may have misinterpreted it, but this seems to be the only time Geordi is interested in a woman for more than just her hot looks. Well, maybe with Dr. Leah Brahms as well, but he fell in love with the hologram, not the real person, and she was coincidentally white.

 

[Trekker4747]

Honestly, in this day and age should we really care which color of women he prefers? It's the 21st damn century, people, so what if he mostly only dated white women?

 

[Sandoval]

True, it shouldn't matter.

But Star Trek does tend to depict black men and women as choosing black partners. Sisko and Jennifer. Sisko and Kassidy. Tuvok and T'Pel.

Not that it's a problem of course, just a matter of personal preference.

 

[tighr]

True, it shouldn't matter.

But Star Trek does tend to depict black men and women as choosing black partners. Sisko and Jennifer. Sisko and Kassidy. Tuvok and T'Pel.

Not that it's a problem of course, just a matter of personal preference.

Kirk and Uhura.

Worf and Troi.

Worf and Dax.

 

[Sandoval]

True, it shouldn't matter.

But Star Trek does tend to depict black men and women as choosing black partners. Sisko and Jennifer. Sisko and Kassidy. Tuvok and T'Pel.

Not that it's a problem of course, just a matter of personal preference.

Kirk and Uhura.

Worf and Troi.

Worf and Dax.

And your point?

Did I mention that Star Trek depicts black people having relationships exclusively with other black people, or did I mention that it tends to?

Even so, why even list Kirk and Uhura being compelled to share a single kiss against their will when long-term relationships and marriages are being discussed?

That was a bit silly wasn't it? You can admit that surely?

 

[Alrik]

wait....Orac wtf is Kirk holding in your avatar???

In TOS it is know as the Rock Penis.

 

[Trekker4747]

Or the Penis Rock.

 

[tighr]

That was a bit silly wasn't it? You can admit that surely?

Phew! I was reading your post, and I wasn't sure you were going to realize it was tongue in cheek. Glad you finally realized it.

The whole point of even discussing race (especially as it relates to 24th century) is meaningless.

Worf isn't even black; he's a Klingon. Michael Dorn is black, but that shouldn't matter because we're not supposed to see him as black.

 

[GalaxyX]

Honestly, in this day and age should we really care which color of women he prefers? It's the 21st damn century, people, so what if he mostly only dated white women?

My only beef with it is that TPTB only wanted to show the stereotypical black man with a white woman. I don't remember ever seeing a white guy with a black chick, or an asian guy with a white woman. That would have been edgier since it's not as common and people don't expect it as much.

 

[Trekker4747]

Yeah, I mean it's not like we had an entire episode dedicated to a white man marrying an Asian woman, or an episode dedicated to a skirt-chaser falling in love with someone who looked like a small-breasted boy; a black female citizen having a flirtatious conversation with a white male officer, a movie with a semi-flirtatious relation ship between a white captain and a black citizen of the past.

Yep. TNG stayed very traditional to couples.



Oh, and never mind the fact that even today still people get upset over the very thought of a black-man romantically involved with a white woman. So TNG was totally playing on safe grounds there by showing that stuff happening because back in the 80s and 90s people were totally cool with such a couple.