ManOnTheWave said:
Yeah. I think was was just kvetching to show his support of his striking (and out of work) brethren.
Exactly. It was commiseration among brothers-in-arms, and it wound up in a blog on the Internet. You know what happens then.

ManOnTheWave said:
Yeah. I think was was just kvetching to show his support of his striking (and out of work) brethren.
This may be a question of sematics, but couldn't Abrams do the things "within the normal realm" of directing or "within industry standards" of what a director normally does, such as add a great line or two?Babaganoosh said:
davejames said:
Agreed. Just because they can't make changes to the actual script doesn't mean Abrams couldn't have thrown out a few suggestions to the actors, does it?
Actually, I think it did mean that.
Any suggestions would probably be considered writing.
Now the actors could have done their OWN adlibs, and (since most of them in this film are probably not WGA members, unlike Abrams) that would be permissible. But Abrams could not have suggested any.
Jackson_Roykirk said:
What I'm trying to say is that if a "director" is allowed to do this, then why would a director who just happens to also have a WGA union card be disqualified from doing his "normal directorial duties" such as suggesting a line to an actor?
If Abrams in good conscience can say "I added that line in the course of doing my normal directorial duties, not as a writer", then I don't see why that would have been a problem. I'm not talking loopholes here -- that's why I said "in good conscience".
I'm not Dennis/Starship Polaris but my understanding is that if Abrams was not a WGA member, then yes, he would be "allowed". But he IS a member, so there is no way to divorce the two functions in a legitimate fashion.Jackson_Roykirk said:
Dennis --
Maybe you answered my question or maybe you didn't (I can be quite thickheaded sometimes), but if a director is NOT part of the WGA, was he "allowed" to add lines a few lines during the strike?...and when I write "allowed", I mean could he have done it without pissing off the guild.
Is a director allowed to add a few lines without it actually being called "writing"?
John_Picard said:
Maybe, in the movie, Spock will travel back in time and avert the strike, thereby enabling a better script, that does not involve Time Travel, to be written.
That sound like something Kirk would say if he wanted a computer/android to get stuck in a "logic loop".archeryguy1701 said:
John_Picard said:
Maybe, in the movie, Spock will travel back in time and avert the strike, thereby enabling a better script, that does not involve Time Travel, to be written.
Spock travels back in time to prevent a time travel... but has to travel through time to implement the change... but he wants to prevent time travel... but he has to time travel to make it work!!! GAAAH!!! It's too much for my mind to handle!!!![]()
Jackson_Roykirk said:
^
^^ Thank you. That's interesting.
Jackson_Roykirk said:
^
^^ That's like this variation on the old joke:
Electrician's Union worker #1: "How many Teamsters does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Electrician's Union worker #2: "A Teamster should be nowhere NEAR that lightbulb."
archeryguy1701 said:
I seem to recall hearing that Iceland was the very first thing they did.
Starship Polaris said:
Does any of this speculation track to anything more substantial than Abrams' remark on the picket line one day that he'd come up with a "great line" on the set and was frustrated that he couldn't include it?
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