writers' strike and Trek

[The Wormhole]

I'm not.

The plan seems to be to keep it going until the actors and writers really feel economic pain. I wouldn't be surprised if this continued into next year. What is interesting this month is that I'm seeing P+ shows on Prime. More HBO/MAX shows on Netflix. And AMC+ shows on MAX. The studios obviously have a plan.

While the Suits might think such an approach would work, it won't. The main flaw with that approach is that it presupposes American entertainment is the only option. And not to sound dismissive of the plight that the actors and writers are facing, but it's not. Thanks to globalization, movies and TV shows from around the world are now easily accessible and with no new American production being worked on, their popularity is only going to rise. And indeed, some American television franchises already have foreign spinoffs of their shows in production. Law and Order (which already has a British spinoff) has a Canadian spinoff in development while NCIS is currently filming an Australian spinoff. The longer these strikes go on the more exposure foreign entertainment will get in the US and with no new product of their own, the shareholders the Suits answer to are going to ask them "what the hell?" At which point the Suits are either going to have to reach a deal with the actors and writers or they will be replaced with new executives who will.

And then there's the fact that polls currently show the public largely supports the actors and writers, so again the Suits aren't making any friends by refusing to make a deal and end the strikes.

 

[F. King Daniel]

It is weird seeing the regular day to day lives of actors on Instagram now they're not hyping shows anymore

 

[Christopher]

Zaslav's latest antics: He restructured how his bonuses work so that he gets paid based on the amount of "available funds" Warner Bros. has, meaning the money they haven't spent because they aren't producing anything. He's literally profiting from the continuation of the strike, so he has no incentive to end it. It sounds like the only hope is for the shareholders to get mad enough at him that they kick him out.

 

[TedShatner10]

Then throw in Bristol being much more socially progressive and it make sense how far apart our initial thoughts on it were

Ah-ha, pull the other one! Bristol's a weird fucking place with the much more Leftwing progressives being more outsiders very much with their universities being encampments (while with a lot of native Bristolians, it's the sink estates have eyes).

 

[Weyoun 251]

I'm genuinely surprised - although my understanding of it comes mainly anecdotally and through the Guardian's reporting on it so obviously that is through its own lens

 

[Nerys Myk]

I'm not.

The plan seems to be to keep it going until the actors and writers really feel economic pain. I wouldn't be surprised if this continued into next year. What is interesting this month is that I'm seeing P+ shows on Prime. More HBO/MAX shows on Netflix. And AMC+ shows on MAX. The studios obviously have a plan.

That was true long before the strike.

 

[bdub76]

While the Suits might think such an approach would work, it won't. The main flaw with that approach is that it presupposes American entertainment is the only option. And not to sound dismissive of the plight that the actors and writers are facing, but it's not. Thanks to globalization, movies and TV shows from around the world are now easily accessible and with no new American production being worked on, their popularity is only going to rise. And indeed, some American television franchises already have foreign spinoffs of their shows in production. Law and Order (which already has a British spinoff) has a Canadian spinoff in development while NCIS is currently filming an Australian spinoff. The longer these strikes go on the more exposure foreign entertainment will get in the US and with no new product of their own, the shareholders the Suits answer to are going to ask them "what the hell?" At which point the Suits are either going to have to reach a deal with the actors and writers or they will be replaced with new executives who will.

And then there's the fact that polls currently show the public largely supports the actors and writers, so again the Suits aren't making any friends by refusing to make a deal and end the strikes.

The suits don’t need to make friends. They need to keep themselves and their peers rich. They play by different rules.

I’m watching old stuff now as well as two foreign shows: Moonstone and Ragnarok. I agree with you about globalization.

And I can also read plenty of free books over at Project Gutenberg. There’s plenty of entertainment while things are on pause.

I’m expecting this strike to continue into next year. The suits will win in the end.

 

[The Wormhole]

They need to keep themselves and their peers rich.

Which they aren't going to do if the companies they run aren't producing new content.

 

[TedShatner10]

US Corporate keeping on winning every fucking time since the 1980s (and in their high position able to rig the game to their favour) is why Hollywood is threatening to fall apart at the seams in the first place. They're the ones who need to be taught a lesson (and they've gone so far as to enrage/insult the Wall Street investors of all people).

 

[Mudd]

WGA, AMPTP Talks in Home Stretch: 'It's Mainly Down to Language Now'

 

[Firebird]

A tentative agreement has been reached between the WGA and AMPTP!

https://deadline.com/2023/09/writers-strike-deal-wga-studios-1235551531/

The Writers Guild has reached a tentative agreement with the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers to end its strike after nearly five months. The parties finalized the framework of the deal Sunday when they were able to untangle their stalemate over AI and writing room staffing levels.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Yay! And wasn't Section 31 due to shoot in October? Almost perfect timing.

 

[Timofnine]

Well, as long as everyone is happy with the agreement and they can start making some Star Trek.

Great news!

 

[casey]

It looks like this deal is just with the writers. Hopefully now that this deal is reached a deal with the screen actors guild won't be far behind. But for now I wouldn't expect shooting to start just yet unfortunately.

Yay! And wasn't Section 31 due to shoot in October? Almost perfect timing.

 

[Christopher]

It looks like this deal is just with the writers. Hopefully now that this deal is reached a deal with the screen actors guild won't be far behind. But for now I wouldn't expect shooting to start just yet unfortunately.

And it's still just a tentative agreement that the WGA members will have to vote on, so it could still be rejected. It's a step forward at last, but it's not over yet.

 

[The Wormhole]

Yay! And wasn't Section 31 due to shoot in October? Almost perfect timing.

The actors are still on strike and no attempts have been made ot negotiate with them yet. So even if this deal with the WGA goes through and the writers strike ends, Section 31 still ain't filming in October.

 

[Uhura's Song]

No sooid repieting on the details but the informal chatacterizatiins fron the Union side characterize the agreement as a big win and think that a lot of the heavy lifting has been done for SAG. And that a SAG agreement soon (a couple weeks) is likely.

We shall see.

 

[The Wormhole]

I personally don't expect the actors strike to be over before the start of November, and even that feels a bit optimistic.

 

[Mudd]

The writers aren't going to reject the deal.

 

[TedShatner10]

The actors haven't given in, with Amazon, etc, deciding not to cave in on their Dystopian vision of AI totally subsuming Hollywood in "grey goo" fake people and projections...