Whaaat? Burnham not breaking rules? She must have been replaced by a changeling...
Writers forgetting common technologies?
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Like I said, there are certain lines she won't cross.
Indeed. I think Burnham is eager to prove that Discovery can be an asset to the Federation and follow the Admiral's orders regarding time travel, while still working to understand what caused it. As Vance notes, exploration hasn't been possible for the Federation or Starfleet so Discovery offers a unique possibility and a unique perspective.
I’m really sorry to hear that, some people are just assholes. I once had someone dig through my social media profiles and make some really nasty racist comments about an ex-girlfriend because I liked The Last Jedi, and he did not.
Multiple Parties agreeing to the Temporal Accords isn't everybody in the friggin universe.
Did someone say it was?
That's the only way it can possibly work.
Because you can only stop Temporal Technology with Temporal Technology.
Clearly not otherwise we would have time travels all over the place, like Trek's own freaking Dr. Who.
But we do...
Hell, Harry Mudd of all people was able to get his hands on Time Travel technology...
And he uses it for petty revenge. Idiot.
1) The Federation would absolutely not destroy the Orb of Time. That would be a violation of the rights of the Republic of Bajor, and would have irrevocably severed UFP-Bajoran relations.
2) I doubt the Federation is powerful enough to destroy the Guardian of Forever.
Bear in mind that the only slingshot maneuvers we've ever seen were calculated by Spock. I doubt most anybody has that kind of brainpower; the galaxy is probably full of stars that incinerated the ships of happy assholes who tried to do slingshot maneuvers and failed.
I don't think anyone left has the technological capacity to engage in time travel at this point. All the temporal powers agreed to ditch the tech before the Burn, and post-Burn time travel doesn't even seem to be within anyone's ability.
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Seriously, why are we still arguing about this? The idea that they'll use time travel on DIS going forward to resolve the conflict makes about as much sense as the idea they'll resolve the conflict by having Andy Rooney and Judy Garland put on a show at the old downtown theater.
Someone has never watched "No Time For Sergeants"
Touche! While I confess I confused Mickey and Andy, my comparison still works in terms of how implausible it is.
Not exactly common technology (although it probably should be in the 32nd century), but there's still no mention of transwarp beaming, spatial trajector or gateway tech in season 3 of Discovery. Maybe the Sphere has some information on the latter which could help the Federation reestablish itself without the need of massive fleets of ships.
You know, while I agree that TW beaming should be commonplace... its not something that TNG and later shows pushed.
Transwarp originated in the movies in ST III when the Excelsior was supposed to have it... only to have been sabotaged by Scotty and then puff, it disappeared into thin air (though it was proposed that it did work but lead to redefinition of the warp scale to what we saw on Voyager for example).
Also, the Kirk crew (or mainly Spock) mentioned TW beaming as something Scottie managed to achieve in late 24th century (prime timeline).
So, you'd think this technology would exist... but thus far we hadn't seen it on Picard (or on Discovery).
Its possible the technology is Starfleet exclusive by the time of Picard... but it would likely be commonplace by the 32nd century to the point where you could BYPASS the Burn and easily continue to beam people across the galaxy... repair space stations remotely, or just beam needed repair bots, etc.
Now we know the Romulans joined the Vulcans and the Federation...
instead of SB-19, why didn't they simply equip their ships with quantum singularity drives?
Looks like a plothole unless the writers eventually explain the ships equipped with those drives also depend on dilithium to regulate energy output, etc.
I don't recall it ever being established that way before, though.
I wouldn't object to dilithium being critical for all conventional warp, regardless of the power source. That is, you always have to pump that power through a dilithium crystal if you want it to become warp power: it doesn't matter whether the power comes from m/am annihilation, fusion, a spare Kelvan outboard engine, the burning of coal or the frantic pedaling of 4.7*10^18 hamsters, it needs the dilithium as a filter anyway.
We know that there is magic involved in warp drive at some point: it's fundamentally unreal. We can decide where to draw the line, but drawing it at lumps vertenium cortenide going FTL when energized with real-world power isn't the best way to go. Warp plasma itself is already magical to a degree, as in "Fair Trade"; not just any old plasma will do there. And dilithium is a magic material by its very nature, while m/am annihilation is a known thing in reality, so drawing the line right there should work fine.
We have never had a pressing reason to think Romulans could manage without dilithium (which they mine from Remus, say), and now we have a pretty pressing storytelling reason to think that they couldn't. This should tip the scales on the otherwise ambiguous AQS power issue nicely enough.
Timo Saloniemi
We know that there is magic involved in warp drive at some point: it's fundamentally unreal. We can decide where to draw the line, but drawing it at lumps vertenium cortenide going FTL when energized with real-world power isn't the best way to go. Warp plasma itself is already magical to a degree, as in "Fair Trade"; not just any old plasma will do there. And dilithium is a magic material by its very nature, while m/am annihilation is a known thing in reality, so drawing the line right there should work fine.
We have never had a pressing reason to think Romulans could manage without dilithium (which they mine from Remus, say), and now we have a pretty pressing storytelling reason to think that they couldn't. This should tip the scales on the otherwise ambiguous AQS power issue nicely enough.
Timo Saloniemi
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