Wrath of Khan deleted scene audio clip.

[SidneyIsTheKiller]

Nope. Humans are arrogant and stupid and we have spent the better part of a half century separating sex from reproduction. It happened to the Siskos and it will continue to happen because people assume it can't happen to them.

Well, for whatever it's worth, at least humans are not alone in this time-honored folly...

 

[Peach Wookiee]

^I have to admit I can picture Commander Riker taking a picture of Worf's expression in this scene. "I thought this would be me some day..."

 

[daedalus5]

The sad thing is that this was being discussed at least 15 years ago on TrekBBS! Why nobody’s gone in with their iPhone and filmed this for us nerds is beyond me. If this was in the UK, Idve done it already.

 

[Firebird]

The sad thing is that this was being discussed at least 15 years ago on TrekBBS! Why nobody’s gone in with their iPhone and filmed this for us nerds is beyond me. If this was in the UK, Idve done it already.

UCLA policy strictly forbids recording any video or audio while viewing archival materials and the room is monitored. I couldn't have gotten away with doing any recording even if I wanted to when I went to view it last year. Best I could do was make copious notes on the script.

 

[Tomalak]

I still think it's wild that this stuff hasn't been officially released.

 

[Tallguy]

I still think it's wild that this stuff hasn't been officially released.

It is one of the great conundrum's of Star Trek that The Motion Picture has often gotten the Cadillac treatment (and justifiably so) while the more popular and critically acclaimed films (your mileage may vary) The Wrath of Khan and The Voyage Home have gotten a more run of the mill approach to extras. (The original DVD releases of 2 and 3 had cast interviews that were shot so badly I had a hard time watching them.)

So many of the cast and crew of TWOK are gone now. It's really too bad. But maybe some day we'll get a "let's open the vaults" edition. Heck, I'd buy it one more time for that.

 

[Grant]

The audio clips were all recorded at UCLA -- so they don't monitor it too well since the entire movie war recorded in one shot

 

[Data Holmes]

How has the UCLA workprint not been digitally scanned for preservation and further archival purposes? You think with technology the way it is today they would be doing such.

 

[Firebird]

The audio clips were all recorded at UCLA -- so they don't monitor it too well since the entire movie war recorded in one shot

Maybe pre-pandemic, but there was certainly no way I could’ve gotten away with it now. Plus, as a researcher who’s spent a lot of time in special collections at UCLA, I’d rather not piss anyone off and risk getting banned.

But hey, what do I know?

 

[Tomalak]

How has the UCLA workprint not been digitally scanned for preservation and further archival purposes? You think with technology the way it is today they would be doing such.

It has. It’s a digital copy of the VHS original.

 

[Data Holmes]

It has. It’s a digital copy of the VHS original.

So… they are just hoarding it because… gatekeepers

 

[Firebird]

So… they are just hoarding it because… gatekeepers

No, as I explained upthread:

The rights for these archival materials are always nebulous. I'm sure even Paramount's legal department doesn't know how to untangle the paper trail for getting it back in their hands for any kind of release. The comforting thing is UCLA is taking good care of the original item - the VHS itself was digitized at some point, so the copy I watched was off a DVD.

We're fortunate this workprint exists at all in a public archive and not in the private collection of some anonymous buyer. UCLA are very good stewards of the material they house in their archives. It's happened far too often that some private collector will hoard their materials, even to the detriment of restoration projects. For the collector, the inherent value in the item is its scarcity.

And for reference, UCLA's copyright policy: https://www.library.ucla.edu/about/policies/access-to-lsc-digital-materials/

If you wanna blame somebody for the lack of release of the workprint on any home video edition, that is all on Paramount, not UCLA.

 

[Tomalak]

Absolutely, UCLA are doing the right and responsible thing in preserving it and making it available to researchers.

 

[daedalus5]

UCLA policy strictly forbids recording any video or audio while viewing archival materials and the room is monitored. I couldn't have gotten away with doing any recording even if I wanted to when I went to view it last year. Best I could do was make copious notes on the script.

Thanks for that, that explains why it's never got into the public domain.

 

[publiusr]

Absolutely, UCLA are doing the right and responsible thing in preserving it and making it available to researchers.

I understand some internet traffic is down—nice to know some are trying to preserve things.