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Would you watch a Stargate series based at the SGC (like Stargate SG-1) but set about 50 to 100 years in the future?
Would you watch this?
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I was wondering if fans would accept such a dramatic push into the future seeing as currently Stargate runs at the same timeline as the real world.
By making a series that far in the future anything could be made possible, the entire Earth could know about the Stargate, Earth could be completely different.
What about a direct to DVD movie about Earth finding a Stargate on another planet hooked up to a time machine, they inadvertently trigger it on the way back to Earth and end up 50 to 100 years in the future. We get to see future Earth ship designs, we get to see transporters on the corners of streets etc
Another question:
How do you see Earth on Stargate 50 to 100 years in the future?
Wouldn't that be pretty close to the Enterprise future with different aliens? That level of time jump would either yield an entirely different world or be unbelieveable in the lack of advancement.
Besides, what makes Stargate and the spinoffs special are the characters. Take them away, and you've just got a sci-fi action series. That's not a bad thing, but why use the license unless you can make full use of its strengths?
Besides, what makes Stargate and the spinoffs special are the characters. Take them away, and you've just got a sci-fi action series. That's not a bad thing, but why use the license unless you can make full use of its strengths?
I'd give it a shot, sure. But if it's written & produced by the same people, the premise isn't going to make any difference, it will still suck. They've had over a decade to show what they can do, and it ain't much.
The setting isn't the issue. Turn this damn franchise over to someone competent, and Stargate: Watching Paint Dry would be an improvement.
The setting isn't the issue. Turn this damn franchise over to someone competent, and Stargate: Watching Paint Dry would be an improvement.
I said yes, but the more I think about it, one of the things I like about the Stargate franchise is that it's set in our current time and is limited by our current technology (more of less), our knowledge base, culture, etc.
I for one like the timely references and humor of Stargate, a show set far into the future would lose that.
I for one like the timely references and humor of Stargate, a show set far into the future would lose that.
All Seeing Eye
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It's only 50 to 100 years in the future! not a lot needs to change except maybe our technology level and how much of the universe has been explored thus far. As for your "current time and is limited by our current technology (more of less)" comment, that so far wrong it's unreal! Earth has access to all the technologies of the Asgard, the show might aswell be set 10,000 years in the future.
But it wouldn't though, it'd only be like 50 to 100 years, why should the humour have to change?
Yeah, my fingers and brain weren't working together on my post. I was actually referring to the weapons that the teams carry. I really like the fact that they carry modern day guns, and only occasionally use zats, and stunners.
I hate Ronon's gun because it never runs out of power. Thats just too much of a sci-fi crutch.
All Seeing Eye
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Well they've already accessed shields, hyperdrive, weapons, sensors, anti-grav and holographics. Anything after that is just bonus material.
In 'unending' look how much Carter was able to access ON HER OWN in just 50 year, imagine how much is being accessed on Earth every single day by a team of a hundred scientists.
The Asgard gave them most of that back in Disclosure, the only real thing Carter found was the replicators.
All Seeing Eye
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Yes the Asgard gave them the tech in the sense that they upgraded Earth ships with that technology, they didn't actually give Earth the knowledge of how to build them, Earth relied on the Asgard doing the upgrades. It wasn't until 'unending' that Earth was given the knowledge on how to build them on their own without the help of the Asgard.
HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS!
They still not built anything yet from the Asgard database and it took Carter 50 odd year to figure out the basics, few earth scientists have her experience though. And calm down.
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Wrong, all the weapons on the other Daedalus class ships have been obtained from the database because the Asgard only upgraded one ship with the plasma weapons, we know from the episode 'The Last Man' (season 4) that Earth is able to construct the Phoenix with all the same Asgard technology as the other Daedalus class ship.
How can you possibly consider Carter better than 100 scientists? she's a genius yes but she's not the only one, you're giving her waaaaaaaaaaaay too much credit. You're not telling me that there arn't other McKays, other Zelenkas and other Carters back on Earth.
^That's correct, the Asgard specifically denied Earth anything that could be used as an offensive weapon, right down to altering their beaming technology so it could not be used as a means of delivering nuclear weapons. There was a point where Earth ships had the beaming technology but relied on radio transmitters to get a lock rather than Asgard sensors.
Curiously, in "Disclosure", Thor said he was there to deliver Asgard weapons and shields for the Prometheus but the ship only ever got the shields. In "Grace", the Prometheus is clearly still relying on ordinary guns and missiles.
It was only when the Asgard gave Earth everything that they were able to construct working energy weapons.
Earth was experimenting with a reverse engineered plasma energy weapon to replace the missiles on the F-302s, derived from Goa'uld technology in "Avenger 2.0" and "Bounty" but it did not work properly the last time we saw it. Carter's prototype burned out after the first shot although this may have been the result of Carter and Dr. Lee deliberately making the weapon appear less functional than it was because they were going to demonstrate it to the public. This weapon was called the X-699.
There was, of course, the weapon Vala showed up with in Continuum which might have been a refined X-699 but was not acknowledged as such.
Curiously, in "Disclosure", Thor said he was there to deliver Asgard weapons and shields for the Prometheus but the ship only ever got the shields. In "Grace", the Prometheus is clearly still relying on ordinary guns and missiles.
It was only when the Asgard gave Earth everything that they were able to construct working energy weapons.
Earth was experimenting with a reverse engineered plasma energy weapon to replace the missiles on the F-302s, derived from Goa'uld technology in "Avenger 2.0" and "Bounty" but it did not work properly the last time we saw it. Carter's prototype burned out after the first shot although this may have been the result of Carter and Dr. Lee deliberately making the weapon appear less functional than it was because they were going to demonstrate it to the public. This weapon was called the X-699.
There was, of course, the weapon Vala showed up with in Continuum which might have been a refined X-699 but was not acknowledged as such.
Well she was working on the stargate before Daniel, she blew up a star, figured out the device on Dakara, created the dialing program that enabled them to visit other planets and helped design the stargate bridge between the galaxies. And the word I used was experience, except for the mysterious expert who created the replicator program used in The Ark Of Truth she's got the most knowledge about Asgardian technology
One more thing, technology on the Stargate shows is a problem more technology creates an easy way out for the writers, it's a trap that Sar Trek fell into, not so much technobabble solutions but technology to solve any problem and in order to create some dramatic tension they need to make that technology fail. So IMO they need to lessen the amount of technology on the shows not increase them.
I have to wonder how that program could've gotten so complicated. Judging by the fact that manual dialing, well, works, they just needed to plug into the gate and try different electrical signals until they found the ones for "spin clockwise," "spin counterclockwise," and "stop." Set up a simple algorithm to tell how much the gate needs to spin to get to a specific symbol from its current orientation, and you've got yourself a dialing computer.
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