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Would you want to see Non/Ex-StarFleet characters in their own show?

The was mention in a TNG episode of planets in the Federation being owned by corporations.On the other hand there was no mention of this.Robert Lansing was a pretty stiff actor, and Teri Garr was in one of her first acting jobs.

We've been through this before in another thread. I'm just going to link to the Memory Alpha entry on money for now, which summarizes all the times it is mentioned.

Trek has been inconsistent about this (because the writers themselves haven't been consistent) but the times that Trek has said something to the effect of "money is no longer in use" it's been very explicit (I don't know how you get more explicit than Picard's "A lot has changed in three hundred years, People are no longer obsessed with the accumulation of 'things. We have eliminated hunger, want, the need for possessions.") The times that money has been referred to as existing (mostly in the 23rd century), it's been more frequent but in a much more offhanded fashion - such that it could be thought of as figure of speech left over from the market economy days of mankind.

Certainly the practical ramifications of the perfection of replicator technology is that any physical object is available essentially for free, meaning even if a market economy really exists, it must be very constrained compared to what we are used to. Though once again Trek hasn't been consistent here - periodically creating items which can't be replicated (from dilithium to latinum to ketracel white) for story purposes. Still, we're explicitly told that no one in the Federation lives in want of basic needs, and that people don't work because they have to, but because they want to. That suggests a radically different economic setup from the present.
 
Robert Lansing was a pretty stiff actor, and Teri Garr was in one of her first acting jobs. There would probably be a long list of actors who could do the roles better.

Gary Seven was written that way. He's supposed to be an unflappable secret agent, always cool under fire. Not just an agent, but a supervisor, trained for many years to remain level-headed no matter what complications crop up in a mission. With apologies to Bond, stirred but never shaken. Roberta Lincoln was written to be his opposite, excitable and immature. It may have been one of Teri's first jobs, but she did fine and the episode was quite enjoyable. The two of them played off each other nicely, not just a couple of young, popular actors chosen strictly for their looks as they would be today.
 
Still, we're explicitly told that no one in the Federation lives in want of basic needs, and that people don't work because they have to, but because they want to.
Picard did say that people figured out basic needs, however "people don't work because they have to, but because they want to" isn't in the show, that's a fan creation.
"A lot has changed in three hundred years, People are no longer obsessed with the accumulation of 'things. We have eliminated hunger, want, the need for possessions."
None of that mentions, or even suggests, the non-existence of money.

Picard (in FC, 1996) directly says money no longer exists, but that's after a lot of episodes say it does, including one where Picard himself makes a purchase on a Federation world.
Source? I'm genuinely interested.
Dytallix Mining, from Conspiracy.
Yes An Articles of the Federation style tv show would interest me
Only if in the theme of the British comedy Yes Minister/Yes Prime Minister.
 
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I would like to see a show about non-Starfleet characters. I am not sure I would want those characters to be a bunch of ex-Starfleet mercenaries though.

How about a show about civilian space-faring merchants, cargo haulers, smugglers and traders, like Kassidy Yates. These characters may even be married to or have family members in Starfleet, to make it not so far removed from the standard ST series.

I would be interested in seeing the civilian side of the Federation. Of course, these characters would be travelling from place to place. They could, in a roundabout way, be exploring -- through doing business with -- strange new worlds and civilizations. So we can still get that part of Star Trek.
 
We have seen civilian science ships, so it would be likely that there are some civilian adventurers out there that would want to go exploring in the unknown without being a part of Starfleet. So rather than a more "mundane" cargo ship then it could be a series about pioneers, looking to make their mark, or scientists following up on a previous Starfleet scouting mission that found something of interest. Kinda like the Hansen's onboard the Raven.

Like Firefly, it could have a small crew, all of whom are main characters that will have development and storylines over time.
 
We have seen civilian science ships, so it would be likely that there are some civilian adventurers out there that would want to go exploring in the unknown without being a part of Starfleet. So rather than a more "mundane" cargo ship then it could be a series about pioneers, looking to make their mark, or scientists following up on a previous Starfleet scouting mission that found something of interest. Kinda like the Hansen's onboard the Raven.

Like Firefly, it could have a small crew, all of whom are main characters that will have development and storylines over time.
I like this. I would love to reframe Firefly as a more positive style adventure without them fighting an oppressive government.
 
Let's say hypothetically that there is a future show, but it stars a Non/Ex-StarFleet crew in a PMC-like or Privatized StarFleet like Company setup where they get their own ship, no StarFleet to back them up; but they operate with other fellow Private Entities that are PMC-like or Private StarFleet like.

Would you want to watch them?

A setup like this could make use of alot of the old vessels from the TNG-VOY era or older while actual current day StarFleet would get all the new and Shiny Vessel designs.

This would also allow a lot of writing freedom to explore life outside of StarFleet and civilian life along with what Non-StarFleet space businesses / entities do when they don't want to deal with StarFleet.

A bit like FireFly, but in a Star Trek Universe with a non-oppressive Government to deal with in the UFP.
Hmm... how about Keiko O'brien: Frontier Botanist.
 
There was never a spinoff show called Keiko O'brien: Frontier Botanist. It would be a good idea since Keiko was from TNG and it would invite an Asian feel to show, plus we could see Molly all grown up who's undecided whether she wants a Starfleet career or something special where a writer could open their imaginations.
 
I don't see why it needs to be Keiko specifically. Why not just Frontier Botanist? Also, where is Miles in all this?
 
It doesn't need to be but I like the title, and I always liked Keiko, and I thought it would be interesting to see Trek in her own eyes and see how she's raising her daughter and son. As for Miles, I was hoping to keep that subplot a secret until the first 3 episodes, of course I would sprinkle in some hints on what may be going on with him, but I would like the tales to include some starfleet medical assignments to missionary work, finding and discovering a new plant life which could be harmful or life saving, and returning to Deep Space Nine. The cast would consist of her kids, and fellow botanists, and maybe a Starfleet cadet or Security Officer who doesn't want to be assigned to Keiko's crew or team, but he'll soon learn how dangerous her quest can be.
 
I would love to rejoin the remaining living cast of Firefly into a "Frontier" Colonisation group.
A bunch who help people move out to the great "Frontiers" to help them setup shop on new planets.
Set after the Dominion War (or Cardassian war to explore a little of the lost era), a group of Federation citizens have had enough of the conflict Starfleet drags the UFP into. They decide to strike out on their own, assembling a small flotilla and head for an uninhabited world to establish their own independent colony. One of the ships in their fleet is their 'support ship', one they've taken to explore the rarely traveled region they're heading into, as well as defend the colony should it be needed (or this could be done by a couple of separate ships, for example an old Oberth-Class for exploration and something like the Akyazi-Class for defense).

Hmm... how about Keiko O'brien: Frontier Botanist.
It's about time Keiko got her time to shine.
 
Maybe Keiko is secretly S31? It explains why she was hardly there in the last couple of years. :shifty:

My first thought on this was Garak on a post-war Cardassia could be interesting.
 
I've mentioned before how much I'd love to see a show about a region of space (maybe centered on a station, but not necessarily so) that features a bunch of different recurring crews/characters starring in their own stories (which could but wouldn't always need to cross over with each other). In that context, you could have the classic Starfleet explorers alongside the merchant ship, the local diplomat, the ex-starfleet group, etc. I think all of those could be the basis of some great stories and I'd be very happy to see them in that kind of situation.

Trying to extrapolate them out to a more traditional series, though, with one specific crew of ex-SF people running a certain kind of mercenary-ish story most of the time? I think that's probably going to be too limited and too unlike the franchise to really be sustainable long term (for me, at least) as a Star Trek series.
 
My first thought on this was Garak on a post-war Cardassia could be interesting.
That would be an epic series!

I've mentioned before how much I'd love to see a show about a region of space (maybe centered on a station, but not necessarily so) that features a bunch of different recurring crews/characters starring in their own stories (which could but wouldn't always need to cross over with each other). In that context, you could have the classic Starfleet explorers alongside the merchant ship, the local diplomat, the ex-starfleet group, etc. I think all of those could be the basis of some great stories and I'd be very happy to see them in that kind of situation.
Great premise! Almost like an anthology, with lots of diverse crews and characters (fans who wanted it could even get their Klingon ship). Lots of scope and potential, definitely sparked a few creative thoughts in my head :bolian:
 
Maybe Keiko is secretly S31? It explains why she was hardly there in the last couple of years. :shifty:

My first thought on this was Garak on a post-war Cardassia could be interesting.
Garak was another fascinating character which I thought was ruined when the cupids struck him with Zeyal; he has many layers going on with him and he's the master of subtext: the truth lies within the words he says. He's Cardassian to the nines, and yes, that would be an epic series indeed because you can do anything with the character and still be interested and up all night trying to decode what he mentioned in an episode. Gosh I wish the Dominion never existed because, golly -- I loved Cardassians!... in a characterization way.
 
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