Poll Would you sign a petition to CBS re: Axanar?
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At this moment option 4 (Yes, I'd ask them to NOT settle and take it to trial. This is too important to let go.) has the biggest share of the vote with 52% which the cynic in me interprets as not such much Star Trek fans being keen to see intellectual property being respected but to see Alec Peters taken to the cleaners
Or not.
Or not.
I usually wouldn't care, but Axanar has so poisoned the well in terms of honest fan productions, it's really necessary for there to be a trial to explicitly put things forward. They've been able to flim-flam members of their cult via their online echo chamber, and there needs to be clarity of what CBS's actual interest is, and that scams like Axanar need to be ground into a paste.
Or both, in my case at least. C/P's property rights should be respected, and they have every right to defend them.At this moment option 4 (Yes, I'd ask them to NOT settle and take it to trial. This is too important to let go.) has the biggest share of the vote with 52% which the cynic in me interprets as not such much Star Trek fans being keen to see intellectual property being respected but to see Alec Peters taken to the cleaners
Or not.
And yeah, Peters is a greedy douche that needs to be taken to the woodshed...
While I think it's a shame Axanar won't be made, the Prelude looked really good and examining the FYW would've been a great idea, the makers were definitely ripping the piss with their approach.
While in an ideal world, I would vote that it would go to trial, like others have said, would a real online poll have any effect on this matter? Fans who watch fan films are a niche within fandom, as has also been said elsewhere.
In real life, I can see the settlement talks succeeding, however much I want it to go all the way to trial. Cost probably has something to do with this.
In real life, I can see the settlement talks succeeding, however much I want it to go all the way to trial. Cost probably has something to do with this.
The poll is just for poops and giggles, Trynda...
That said, though, I was hoping for some sort of settlement for a long time, but since Alec has decided to start trying to throw others under the bus, implicate others to get them sued as well, and has been - shall we say - less than honest about all these matters, I think CBS/Paramount needs to go to trial and end this with a judge's decision. Too many people have been screwed and hurt over the months for anything less to be done.
That said, though, I was hoping for some sort of settlement for a long time, but since Alec has decided to start trying to throw others under the bus, implicate others to get them sued as well, and has been - shall we say - less than honest about all these matters, I think CBS/Paramount needs to go to trial and end this with a judge's decision. Too many people have been screwed and hurt over the months for anything less to be done.
Seems like the point of any petition on the matter would be to say, in effect, "Here's what I would do if I were you."
If the point of the poll is to ask that question, then I would take it to trial. I don't say that because I want to see AP get taken to the cleaners specifically, but more to the point I think it would be useful to use this as a warning to the rest of the fan film community. It's time for C/P to fire the shot across the bow to everyone - play nice with us and you can do what you like, but as South Park's Cartman would say, "respect our authoritay".
In my ideal world, C/P would win a large monetary victory, would then spend a couple years extracting as much financial pain on AP as possible to get the money once the appeals are done, and then quietly drop it (once I've at least gotten back my legal expenses plus some), since actually getting all of it over a film that was never made is secondary.
So that's my opinion, but at the end of the day - Who am I to be inserting my opinion on the matter - even indirectly via petition - into this conversation on C/P, and why should they care what I think? Long term, no one is going to stop watching Star Trek and buying merchandise no matter what happens to Axanar. It will blow over, and won't affect C/P's bottom line on the franchise.
I think the whole affair is kinda sad, because I fear the outcome of all this is going to be that C/P makes a VERY restrictive set of guidelines (to prevent exploitation of loopholes) that in the end kills off fan productions almost entirely.
If the point of the poll is to ask that question, then I would take it to trial. I don't say that because I want to see AP get taken to the cleaners specifically, but more to the point I think it would be useful to use this as a warning to the rest of the fan film community. It's time for C/P to fire the shot across the bow to everyone - play nice with us and you can do what you like, but as South Park's Cartman would say, "respect our authoritay".
In my ideal world, C/P would win a large monetary victory, would then spend a couple years extracting as much financial pain on AP as possible to get the money once the appeals are done, and then quietly drop it (once I've at least gotten back my legal expenses plus some), since actually getting all of it over a film that was never made is secondary.
So that's my opinion, but at the end of the day - Who am I to be inserting my opinion on the matter - even indirectly via petition - into this conversation on C/P, and why should they care what I think? Long term, no one is going to stop watching Star Trek and buying merchandise no matter what happens to Axanar. It will blow over, and won't affect C/P's bottom line on the franchise.
I think the whole affair is kinda sad, because I fear the outcome of all this is going to be that C/P makes a VERY restrictive set of guidelines (to prevent exploitation of loopholes) that in the end kills off fan productions almost entirely.
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