Would you like to see a cardassian episode?

[pookha]

"Observer Effect" is a nice lead-in to "Errand of Mercy" more than a century later, but it makes one wonder why it takes the Organians another 110-odd years to decide to make another contact with humans. I guess to each species their own.

uhh as i referenced in my post there were contacts with humans in fact it sounds like the federation before errand of mercy.
it had been visited but because everyone believed this to be true

Little of intrinsic value

the visits may not have been that frequent.
it is because of its location that it became important as war loomed.

once spock and kirk go to the planet the oddities start..
spock..

Whatever it is, it would seem to be inconsistent with the reports we've been given on this culture.

and this bothers spock.. a lot for him.

Captain, our information on these people and their culture was not correct.

evidently the organians were playing with the earlier survey teams.

 

[Rhodan]

They already did a Borg episode in season 2. I would have liked to have seen what the Reeves-Stevenses came up with in their Borg Queen origin they pitched had it been made, though.

That would be however total violation of any continuity that Borg queen clearly wasn´t human.

Susanna Thompson's Queen wasn't human, but Alice Krige's could have been. She never said which species she was. And you couldn't tell by looking at her, since there was so much Borg tech grafted onto her body.

If...

Spoiler: Borg

Krige played a human Starfleet medtech who was assimilated

, it wouldn't violate continuity.

So, in the First Contact she would deliberately delete her own timeline, erasing herself from existence?

 

[Timo]

A noble sacrifice if she were acting for the greater good of the Collective...

But I still insist that the Borg always planned to lose in ST:FC. They had time travel, they could have kept on doing it till they got it right. And they did get it right - they helped create a technologically advanced Federation that provides them with nifty new gadgets to assimilate every time they meet. Why, perhaps the Collective chose the Krige Queen because she would have additional motivation for going back and creating a past future where she will be assimilated and made Queen!

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Rhodan]

Also I wonder how would they explain the despite Borg having now full knowledge of humanity wouldn´t attack until 24th century... Unless she would became queen of some limitated collective of "Regeneration survivors" or something.

 

[cooleddie74]

The Borg probably had their hands full in other quadrants until then. And Q didn't help matters by tossing the 1701-D into the path of that one single cube ship. That sped up the process and brought about a Federation-Borg conflict many years sooner than it might have otherwise happened, even with the "Regeneration" drones having sent that message back in 2153.

 

[DarKush]

Cardassians became too predictable for my liking

Perhaps, but it would've had more of an impact for me, and I suspect, many other fans if the aliens had been Cardassians, since we know what is to come, than just some random colorless aliens that we'll never see again.

TNG, in "Chain of Command" revealed that Cardassian history wasn't so militaristic, that it had been far more peaceful at one time, and I think it would've been nice to see a glimpse of that.

Also, I would've liked to have seen the Cardassian poet on ENT, same with Berlinghoff (sp), and the Vorgans (sp) from that Picard/Vash/Risa episode.

 

[MattJC]

Berlinghoff

If B and B had to have a tie in with TNG, this would be the best choice.

 

[Red Ranger]

Something else to consider about Cardassians. According to Picard in Chain of Command, Part 2, the Cardassians weren't always warlike. At one time, they were a peaceful people. They've never quite delved into why their society took a fascist turn. All we know is that by the 24th century, they're run by a military dictatorship of unspecified duration or philosophy, other than Might Makes Right. -- RR

 

[cooleddie74]

Apparently, the transition to military fascism occurred during Gul Madred's lifetime since he remembered being a small child living in squalor and poverty...until the military took over and stabilized Cardassian society.

 

[BarryWaddle]

I dunno how i would've felt about an outright Cardassian episode, but maybe a reference to the Denobulans and Cardassians being related...They were the first thing I thought of when I saw Phlox.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

That would be however total violation of any continuity that Borg queen clearly wasn´t human.

Susanna Thompson's Queen wasn't human, but Alice Krige's could have been. She never said which species she was. And you couldn't tell by looking at her, since there was so much Borg tech grafted onto her body.

If...

Spoiler: Borg

Krige played a human Starfleet medtech who was assimilated

, it wouldn't violate continuity.

So, in the First Contact she would deliberately delete her own timeline, erasing herself from existence?

Come again?

All I'm saying is if a human was to be assimilated, and later become the Borg Queen we first met, it would not violate continuity, because it was never said which species that Queen was.

 

[Rhodan]

Susanna Thompson's Queen wasn't human, but Alice Krige's could have been. She never said which species she was. And you couldn't tell by looking at her, since there was so much Borg tech grafted onto her body.

If...

Spoiler: Borg

Krige played a human Starfleet medtech who was assimilated

, it wouldn't violate continuity.

So, in the First Contact she would deliberately delete her own timeline, erasing herself from existence?

Come again?

All I'm saying is if a human was to be assimilated, and later become the Borg Queen we first met, it would not violate continuity, because it was never said which species that Queen was.

That´s true and what I´m doing is that for a change I concentrate on possible plot contradiction. What´s hard to understand about that?

 

[cooleddie74]

Susanna Thompson's Queen wasn't human, but Alice Krige's could have been. She never said which species she was. And you couldn't tell by looking at her, since there was so much Borg tech grafted onto her body.

If...

Spoiler: Borg

Krige played a human Starfleet medtech who was assimilated

, it wouldn't violate continuity.

So, in the First Contact she would deliberately delete her own timeline, erasing herself from existence?

Come again?

All I'm saying is if a human was to be assimilated, and later become the Borg Queen we first met, it would not violate continuity, because it was never said which species that Queen was.

True. And noted.

But based on the shape and contours of her head and humanoid skull I doubt it. She was probably a Delta Quadrant humanoid from some random species.

 

[MeanJoePhaser]

I would've liked Kim Kardashian to appear as a Cardassian who makes a sex tape with Travis.

 

[cooleddie74]

Next week on DS9: "Keeping up with the Cardassians"

Gul Dukat's cousin who has a huge ass and made a sex holoprogram gets into intoxicated mischief on Deep Space Nine and Captain Sisko is forced to take action!