Would you like a bsg style reboot of Star trek?

[CorporalCaptain]

My point stands as well:
"If, in these conditions, humans can't build a rotating habitat, then I'm sorry to say we'll never expand into space: we just don't have the brain power - by a significant margin."



We built hugely expensive and not very safe ships that could at most get people to the moon.
We never solved the problem of spaceflight - not even close.

As for your comparison between centrifugal gravity and spaceships:
Centrifugal force creating gravity is a non-problem, not building spaceships.

Ah! So building spaceships is a problem, but building spaceships to do things they've never done before is a non-problem. Got it!

Again with moving the goalposts:
Centrifugal force creating gravity is the same as building spaceships for you? Really?

Nope, I never said that. All I said, in the post that kicked off this sidebar, was that doing that on a practical spacecraft is not a "non-problem", as you'd called it.

Not all problems are equally problematic, obviously.

But in practical spaceflight, when mass is a premium, nothing is trivial. When mass is a premium, everything's a problem.

 

[I am not Spock]

Abrams's movies are already essentially a reboot.

 

[sj4iy]

Not really. BSG (the new one) is incredibly depressing, there's very little humor in it and even though we own the box set, I have yet to rewatch it because it's such a downer. Star Trek was never like that, and I wouldn't want it to be.

 

[Misfit Toy]

Did anyone in the 1700s predict an iPhone? Television? Internet? DVD? Space shuttle? Hubble telescope? Automobile? Electron microscope? Electric can opener?

I did.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Abrams Trek is a reboot but it's not a BSG-style reboot.

Closer to a Nolan-style reboot.

 

[Lord Garth]

I was disappointed by 2009 reboot of star trek because i hoped it was an opportunity to put off the most naif part of star trek. Unfortunately the reboot highlight the part of star trek i don't like.

I'd like tp see a reboot of star trek like the reboot of BSG:

-no alien
-no superweapons
-no magic technology (transponder,replicator,universal translator)
-no particle of the week
-with more internal coherence
-no time travel
ecc

and you?

One of the great things about nBSG was that it was different from Star Trek. Different being the key.

I don't think franchises should emulate each other to the point of interchangeability. It's much better that they play to the strengths of what makes them unique.

You can't have Star Trek without aliens.

As far as the technology, what seems magical today might not be hundreds of years from now.

I'm not saying I think Star Trek is an accurate portrayal of what the future will be. I'm definitely not saying that. But only projecting forward based on today is equally inaccurate. Progress can move backwards, forwards, or sideways. A new factor can come in that changes everything. Something that we think might be the wave of the future might only go so far. A technology might emerge that we might think of as ridiculous today.

 

[sonak]

Not really. BSG (the new one) is incredibly depressing, there's very little humor in it and even though we own the box set, I have yet to rewatch it because it's such a downer. Star Trek was never like that, and I wouldn't want it to be.

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One of the many great things about Trek is its rewatchability. Though I think nuBSG is a "good" show, I have no desire to watch it again.

 

[Belz...]

And did I just read that you don't like horizontal turbolifts ??

yes, i don't like it, they are dumb

Well, why ? I mean, the ships are so big. Why not just remove lifts altogether and replace them with stairs and ladders, right ? I mean, why should the crew have to walk or run all the way down a deck ?

 

[Faria]

And did I just read that you don't like horizontal turbolifts ??

yes, i don't like it, they are dumb

Well, why ? I mean, the ships are so big. Why not just remove lifts altogether and replace them with stairs and ladders, right ? I mean, why should the crew have to walk or run all the way down a deck ?

not really:

the tos enterprise has a saucer of 128 meters; my school is about the same lenght,and we don't have orizontall lift, we just walk.

e.g. the bathrooms are about 80 meters away by my classroom, we walk to go in bathroom and we spend few second to do this

 

[Enterprise is Great]

BSG was a great series but rebooting Trek using BSG's restrictions would make Trek into something other than Trek so my answer is...no.

 

[Lynx]

BSG reboot of Star Trek?

No! No! Never!

 

[Unimatrix Zero]

Not really. BSG (the new one) is incredibly depressing, there's very little humor in it and even though we own the box set, I have yet to rewatch it because it's such a downer. Star Trek was never like that, and I wouldn't want it to be.

This is spot on. Some of us cannot stomach the latest trend to Emo-ize every TV show.

Star Trek is a pretty upbeat program which is a huge part of its enduring success. It's simply fantastic to watch an imaginative show that enables you to escape the crap of everyday life and have a bit of a laugh with its subtle humour.

This could partly explain why Enterprise was such a flop - it was venturing unsuccessfully into BSG territory.

 

[T'Girl]

Not really. BSG (the new one) is incredibly depressing, there's very little humor in it and even though we own the box set, I have yet to rewatch it because it's such a downer. Star Trek was never like that, and I wouldn't want it to be.

This is spot on.

I agree.

This is one of the prime reasons that for years I deliberately didn't watch the Dominion War seasons of DS9 (eventually I did).

 

[Belz...]

the tos enterprise has a saucer of 128 meters; my school is about the same lenght,and we don't have orizontall lift, we just walk.

The new Enterprise is much bigger, and you need to travel through several decks to go where you're going. Airports have conveyors for people, why not turbolifts on starships ? You haven't given any reason why they are dumb.

 

[Faria]

the tos enterprise has a saucer of 128 meters; my school is about the same lenght,and we don't have orizontall lift, we just walk.

The new Enterprise is much bigger, and you need to travel through several decks to go where you're going. Airports have conveyors for people, why not turbolifts on starships ? You haven't given any reason why they are dumb.

1- the new enterprise sucks

2- turbolift and conveyors are to different things

I think that 2 crossed converoys in the largest saucer deck and mayby one for deck in the enginering section could be more realistic

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Not really. BSG (the new one) is incredibly depressing, there's very little humor in it and even though we own the box set, I have yet to rewatch it because it's such a downer. Star Trek was never like that, and I wouldn't want it to be.

This is spot on. Some of us cannot stomach the latest trend to Emo-ize every TV show.

Ugh, can we please make a distinction between 'Depressing' and 'Emo'?

Not everything that's negative, that shows an unhappy side to the human condition, that expresses angsty emotions is 'Emo'.

Something's only Emo if you have no legitimate reason to be depressed and emotional, which the cast of BSG clearly did.

It's true though, BSG is less rewatchable than other shows because it's less fun. It had its share of humorous scenes but most of the series is a constant stream of death.

 

[Belz...]

1- the new enterprise sucks

That is completely irrelevant. It is and it is bigger, so quick transportation horizontally makes sense.

2- turbolift and conveyors are to different things

Not in function they aren't. They both allow people to move from one point to another within a structure with minimal effort. Moreso in the case of the lifts.

I think that 2 crossed converoys in the largest saucer deck and mayby one for deck in the enginering section could be more realistic

More realistic compared to what ? You have provided no reason that turbolifts are unrealistic.

 

[Third Nacelle]

^He's claimed a number of Star Trek technologies are unrealistic, hasn't given reasons for any of those either.

 

[BillJ]

I don't want Trek to be realistic. I get enough realism out of real life.

 

[horatio83]

I like BSG for what it is but I don't think that the authoritarian, military and post 9/11-ish elements of BSG would fit Trek. You can go to the dark side in Trek but only when there is light at the end of the tunnel appearing quickly enough.