It’s not the Story Group’s job to put their foot down over anything that’s open to discussion, but rather to be positive and work with everyone to the best overall effect. They knew Star Wars had seen its share of phenomena like the hyperspace transmission of light or whatever; they knew the TFA novelization wasn’t supposed to be canon where it contradicted the film, and the Rey/Poe meeting had been omitted; they knew that Maul was available. That’s not the same as George Lucas saying that the established Korriban didn’t work for him as the name of the Sith planet, and that it was going to be Moraband from The Clone Wars forward. The new contributors wouldn’t knock down the basics because the property isn’t theirs to begin with.
Would you accept a flexible Star Trek timeline?
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This is pretty much my attitude as well. I don't see the need to explain everything, when the tech largely serves the same purpose, the uniforms serve the same purpose, and the ship serves the same purpose.
For a franchise that supposedly looks towards humanity's future there is a lot of looking to the franchise's past.
Absolutely. Just like I treat it as a multiverse, because I can.
Absolutely. For me, TOS is the one I grew up with and the one that was the visual 23rd century for nearly fifty years, and I have no desire to see it changed. Discovery exists alongside it as another timeline where things went a little bit differently.
No one can really prove anything, other that their personal preferences on the matter.
Exactly, so why look to the franchise’s past in the first two seasons of DSC?
If I knew that I'd be making a lot more money than I do now.
Because that was clearly where the money was at. It was a business decision, not a creative one.
Roddenberry would be proud.
Trek is over 50 years old. Like Dr Who, Marvel, DC, James Bond, Mission Impossible and other long running IPs that are still running today. I think we can relax on the continuity, canon and timeline. That way more things are available for story telling in the future.
Any idea on what the other "Boss" possibilities were? Wasn't he already on one of the cartoons?
But Star Wars is only a decade younger and it doesn’t relax on those, and Star Trek has had more in common with it than any of your examples, except perhaps Doctor Who, which again isn’t recasting, say, the Fourth Doctor because he might be seen as the iconic iteration, along with Sarah Jane Smith and K-9. The closest it ever came to that was in the early, off-canon films with Peter Cushing. I mean some property owners can actually choose showrunners that can keep going with new ideas.
Trek Prime probably only existed with Spock and the Jellyfish
I think the TOS history included a more friendly history after Apollo, anti-gravity discovered after 1986 Voyager home.
With FIRST CONTACT the nuclear war was worse, but nacelles allowed a jumpstart that led to both Kelvin time lines and Discovery. The Temporal Cold War, perhaps bits of Narada being found by Romulans for their shape changing drone ship--Henry Starling from FUTURE'S END, etc.
The Star Trek V cast photo in STB suggests otherwise.
I think a tech manual for the Temporal Integrity Commission would be nice--showing the tech from many timelines
A couple of years ago I decided to make the ultimate Star Trek timeline chart. It was going to show every timeline from Trek, how they all branched off and merged together again. It would be epic.
Then I started, and quickly realised that Voyager (because why not start with Voyager) makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and it's impossible to draw any kind of coherent timeline for that show. 300 years if history is reset. Kes lives her life backwards for awhile. Kes comes back insane but it's okay because Janeway always knew she would and prepared a message. "Shattered" fractures the ship into a myriad of alternate timezones. The Voyager from the beginning of the show is in no way the Voyager and crew of the end of the show, the branch points between "Year of Hell" and "Before and After" is 300 years and which episodes exist in which version of history? And which of those are the ones that interact with the other shows??
So I gave up.
Voyager might be the key to every thing--have the TIC give up after making a post similar to what you said above.
So it wasn't just Vulcan that died.
What I mean--is that timeline "tail" winked out--so only he remembers TOS--shades of Dr. Who.
So it wasn't just Vulcan that died.
The TV shows and films set in the same continuity should try to make sense, at least if you close one eye and squint with the other.
Spinoff media should just be up to the individual piece to decide where it fits in it's a continuity, ie the Shatnerverse existing alongside the Novelverse or the Marvel comics being there own thing compared to IDW. It should never be regarded as canon.
The TV shows and films have always been contradictory with each other and even themselves. That's just part of the deal with watching Star Trek.
Spinoff media should just be up to the individual piece to decide where it fits in it's a continuity, ie the Shatnerverse existing alongside the Novelverse or the Marvel comics being there own thing compared to IDW. It should never be regarded as canon.
The TV shows and films have always been contradictory with each other and even themselves. That's just part of the deal with watching Star Trek.
I like it.... I've always said that either Kelvin is a totally separate permanent always-existing universe, like the Mirror - OR it is a standard timeline rewrite, and we just haven't seen the end of it yet, where Super Old Spock and Old Spock save Romulus together and send things back to normal (or some other variant of the story.) My timeline rewrite isn't much different than a defunct timline tail winking out. I normally attribute the Discovery timeline to the interference from FC and ENT (borg drone), but it may just be the result of a timeline that was *restored* from Nero's interference and Vulcan was saved, but some technology (and maybe even a time double of Spock from a defunct timeline) carried over. Hmm.
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