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Would TNG Have Worked Without Picard?

And I, for one, am not sure I could have taken that much Shelby. I really like a lot of the strong female characters (Kira, Janeway, and most of the women on SNW), but that one rubbed me the wrong way.
Agreed. I don't think she'd have stayed on and Data would have become Riker's XO instead.
 
Insurrection should have ended with the wedding, and Riker taking his place on the Titan, and Data FINALLY getting the promotion he should have had 12 years earlier. Or maybe Riker takes over the Enterprise, while Picard stays on Baku with his love interest, don't recall her name. And lives happily ever after, and we do mean EVER after.

As for Star Trek X, it should have been set on DS9, with Voyager docked there. So we see an epic crossover, and Harry is granted the promotion he deserves. The Eternal Ensign idiocy is properly silenced, before it becomes so self sustaining that Harry's post-Voyager fate can literally never be revealed.
 
TNG didn't really take off until after Gene died, if you notice that's when we started to get more character based episodes, rather than the plots being focused on solving the problem of the day.
Several of the actors had mentioned that they had approached gene about expanding their characters but he was pretty set on having the "problem of the day" format.
I believe this happened around season three which would have been around the time Gene passed. That's really when the series took off and the characters became more relatable and endearing to viewers, where Picard became less rigid, Riker became less awkward, and actually earned more respect after his handling of Wolf 359 etc...
Data became more, well, human...Worf showed other emotions and became a vehicle for comedy, Geordi became the nerd/geek that was so beloved and endearing...Counselor Cleavage (Troi) got less melodramatic, Crusher got to explore ethics and principle far more...
So yeah seasons one and two, when going back, you definitely see a paradigm shift from season three onwards.
 
Roddenberry passed away during S5 (shortly before "The Game"), but he did begin to take a less active role as of S3.
The show was finding its feet before then. S1 seemed to have a lot of trying to recreate the vibe of TOS. S2 had TNG starting to go its own way.
 
Roddenberry passed away during S5 (shortly before "The Game"), but he did begin to take a less active role as of S3.
Yes, thx for the correction..i think what happened was that (unfortunate in some ways) gene was relegated to an advisory/consulting role...he really had no more power per se in the day to day workings of the show, Rick Berman etc..kind of took over at that point...and that is when we saw these changes, for the better,
I like seasons three and four the best...
Season 4 in particular really gave us the Picard we know with episodes like 'Family" , "Q-pid", "The Drumhead" and so on...the onion was finally peeled in regards to Picard
 
I have a lot of reservations about Berman overall, but if he's responsible for the transition in TNG, that was probably something to be thankful for (YMMV).
 
Well when you think about it, the universal appeal of any show/movie etc...ultimately comes back to the characters. I think where the shift happened was when there was a plan of action and some of the characters might have expressed objection to the means or methods....that created the dramatic tension that was handled so well...

great example in a later season was "I, Borg" where Geordie starts to question their intent, and Picard, still feeling his trauma, berates him and suggests that he stop being so emotionally involved..and then as we know, Guinan convinces Picard to put aside his prejudice...

I suspect in earlier seasons they might have not explored that dynamic and focused on "We have a job to do, let's do it..."
 
TNG didn't really take off until after Gene died, if you notice that's when we started to get more character based episodes, rather than the plots being focused on solving the problem of the day.
Several of the actors had mentioned that they had approached gene about expanding their characters but he was pretty set on having the "problem of the day" format.
I believe this happened around season three which would have been around the time Gene passed. That's really when the series took off and the characters became more relatable and endearing to viewers, where Picard became less rigid, Riker became less awkward, and actually earned more respect after his handling of Wolf 359 etc...
Data became more, well, human...Worf showed other emotions and became a vehicle for comedy, Geordi became the nerd/geek that was so beloved and endearing...Counselor Cleavage (Troi) got less melodramatic, Crusher got to explore ethics and principle far more...
So yeah seasons one and two, when going back, you definitely see a paradigm shift from season three onwards.
Every character was far more interesting in seasons one and two, especially Riker. "The Best of Both Worlds" marked the end of his character's development. He should have been killed off and replaced with Thomas Riker in season four.
 
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