Would Star Trek II Work Without The Reset?

[Lord Garth]

just as TUC expects us to expect the interiors always looked the way they did in that movie.

There was plenty of time for the bridge to be refitted between TFF and TUC. However you want to count it, it was several years. When I first saw the movie in 1991, I just figured they re-modelled. It's the same set just painted differently and with a metallic finish. Pretty straight forward.

Between TVH and TFF is a different story. Completely different bridge sets and only weeks or months were supposed to have passed, not years. And, so, yeah, I suspend disbelief there.

 

[CoveTom]

There was plenty of time for the bridge to be refitted between TFF and TUC. However you want to count it, it was several years. When I first saw the movie in 1991, I just figured they re-modelled. It's the same set just painted differently and with a metallic finish. Pretty straight forward.

Well, plus the addition of all those ridiculous buttons, sliders, and other doo-hickeys that Meyer insisted upon. And clocks. Lots of clocks. Oh, and fire extinguishers. That's important.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I doubt it was Scotty who completely replaced the bridge. It was probably the Starfleet Corp of Engineers.

He built it all! Piece by piece! He did every weld! Like Geordi in PIC3!!!!

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Between TVH and TFF is a different story. Completely different bridge sets and only weeks or months were supposed to have passed, not years. And, so, yeah, I suspend disbelief there.

One possibility. The bridge in IV is actually an auxiliary control room because they found the actual bridge (the V bridge) needed some work which Kirk and Scotty thought they could do on the way to wherever. Then they found they couldn't and went back.

Realistically, this is silly. They would not have left Spacedock with a barely functional bridge.

 

[Lord Garth]

One possibility. The bridge in IV is actually an auxiliary control room because they found the actual bridge (the V bridge) needed some work which Kirk and Scotty thought they could do on the way to wherever. Then they found they couldn't and went back.

Realistically, this is silly. They would not have left Spacedock with a barely functional bridge.

In the TNG Technical Manual, Mike Okuda's explanation for the change between TVH and TFF was that the bridge was a detachable module that could be swapped. That explanation almost works. Almost. The only part that doesn't is: why would the bridge module be swapped out so quickly?

The only two explanations I can come up with that make sense here are:

1) The bridge was destroyed in a battle between TVH and TFF. Possible, but if things got to that point, then a lot more would've been damaged too. So highly unlikely.

2) The Enterprise-A really did start off as another ship, like fan theories have suggested, and it wasn't brand-new. Then it was decided to replace the bridge, which was already scheduled to happen anyway, with or without Kirk, registration change or not.

In the end, though, I agree. These are all silly explanations to cover over the set needing to be replaced and William Shatner wanting the bridge to have a new look while they were at it.

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Anyway, Kirk and TWOK. Aging and dealing with being middle-aged is an important theme to TWOK and I understand that. But I get a kick out of Kirk saying he feels "old and worn out" at 50, considering that William Shatner is 95 now! And in pretty good shape for 95.

 

[Maurice]

He likes having the Enterprise be a Cadet ship instead of being out there exploring, because it's a way for him to be near the Enterprise.

There's nothing in the script to say the Enterprise is a cadet/training ship. It's a ship being sent out on a training cruise with a potential new crew, which is reinforced by McCoy's question. It being a cadet ship is just fan interpretation.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

Realistically, this is silly. They would not have left Spacedock with a barely functional bridge.

The brand new battleship HMS Prince of Wales went in to battle against the Prinz Eugen and Bismark not having completed sea trials and certification, with a civilian team of mechanics onboard trying to get the main guns operational (during her brief career, her main guns were never fully operational, and it would have required months in drydock to correct) and her boilers not all online limiting her top speed.

 

[Lord Garth]

There's nothing in the script to say the Enterprise is a cadet/training ship. It's a ship being sent out on a training cruise with a potential new crew, which is reinforced by McCoy's question. It being a cadet ship is just fan interpretation.

And an interpretation is exactly what I was giving.