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Would Spock's death had been covered up?

willg

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I suppose my question might be more accurately asked as: How would the Federation explain Spock's death and resurrection? I don't think they need to explain the "Vulcan Mysticism" part of it, but rather its connections to Project Genesis?
 
Hmmm. Do we know how much time passed between Spock's burial and his resurrection? If it was only a very very short while, they could always say that the rumors of his death were greatly exaggerated and blame the media.
 
People come back from the dead in Star Trek all the time. It had already happened to Scotty in "The Changeling", and probably once or twice in Enterprise.

"Just another day in outer space"
 
Given the population of the Federation and the number of member worlds, I suspect that Spock's death would've been noteworthy on Earth and Vulcan, but probably as a footnote on the news channels/feeds. His resurrection would probably be far more noteworthy to the Federation as a whole.
 
The destruction of the Enterprise, the Reliant and the Grissom, along with the deaths of hundreds (?) of starfleet personnel would result in the news media not noticing the mis-reporting of one captain's death. Just one more name on a list.
 
That's a very good point. Spock's death would be probably mentioned as part of the massive casualty lists. Still, as the son of a prominent ambassador, I would think his death would be noteworthy.
 
Hmmm, and how many "prominent ambassadors" from your own country can you name?
 
Shirley Temple Black immediately comes to mind. :) How many do I have to name?

My son just elbowed me and immediately told me to add Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin. Doh!
 
I'd imagine that Captain Spock's "Death" was only privvyonly to senior officers and of course those who were involved, obviously the Grissom crew were aware, because they located the Photon Tube while scanning the Genesis Planet, however it didn't seem to be such a big deal, remember Spock was somewhat of a legend in Starfleet and its likely given his preference for excellence, that his Cadet's were among the top students in Starfleet

I would think that it was public knowledge that Spock was a casualty, however given the events that occured, I'd imagine most people just assumed he wasn't actually deceased and gradually over time the real events of 2285 faded into history

I guess it may have been covered up by some of Starfleets Brass, maybe at the request of the Vulcan Government, to keep their rituals (Fal Tor Pan) private
 
I'm making the assumption of course that the UFP completely swept anything pertaining to Genesis under the bed so to speak. I suppose it could've been reported that Spock was killed as Khan was about to detonate some sort of weapon that the spin doctors could concoct.

Would the fal tor pan procedure had been kept secret? I can see that happening. Something along the lines of "humanity isn't prepared for all that information, etc."
 
Like pon farr, fal tor pan would never be openly discussed. Which is why it rankles me when Saavik explains it to David like it's something he should know.
 
Shirley Temple Black immediately comes to mind. :) How many do I have to name?

My son just elbowed me and immediately told me to add Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin. Doh!

Don't forget Joe Kennedy. (Prominent in this case might be subjective....just sayin'. ;))

On topic. With the secrecy surrounding Genesis, Sarek making quick work of reaching out to Star Fleet brass and then Kirk, and the short ammount of time that transpired between death, rebirth and Fal Tor Pan, I don't believe that Spock's death would have been something widely known.
 
It's interesting to think about civilian UFP life in this context. Are there wonders comparable to those of outer space on every UFP planet, in every Monday morning of the lives of UFP citizens? How common is resurrection? How common are news of political unrest somewhere in distant deep space, of Klingon aggression, of Romulan treachery, of Starfleet fucking up, of gods stepping down from Olympos and slipping on a banana peel? Is Kirk's job an exciting one, or perhaps among the duller ones in the Federation?

One would assume the flow of information in the UFP to be at least as massively uncontrollable as it is on today's Earth. Anybody interested in finding out about Genesis or Spock would have access to the information one way or another - but the great public would be swamped with information, and might not consider either Genesis or Spock truly newsworthy.

Timo Saloniemi
 
It's interesting to think about civilian UFP life in this context. Are there wonders comparable to those of outer space on every UFP planet, in every Monday morning of the lives of UFP citizens? How common is resurrection? How common are news of political unrest somewhere in distant deep space, of Klingon aggression, of Romulan treachery, of Starfleet fucking up, of gods stepping down from Olympos and slipping on a banana peel? Is Kirk's job an exciting one, or perhaps among the duller ones in the Federation?

One would assume the flow of information in the UFP to be at least as massively uncontrollable as it is on today's Earth. Anybody interested in finding out about Genesis or Spock would have access to the information one way or another - but the great public would be swamped with information, and might not consider either Genesis or Spock truly newsworthy.

Timo Saloniemi

I think the general media of the Federation would be very similar to our own. Basically they control what peoples of every planet think by only allowing "favorable" news to be broadcast. How? By controlling the media from the inside out. This way they can report only news items that they like and even then lie about things to make it look like something else happened. Just check out "South Of The Border" directed by Oliver Stone, and the Chavez part specifically to see what Im talking about.
If you think our media is honest and only tells us the truth youre sadly mistaken. It probably is the same for the Federation...
 
I suppose my question might be more accurately asked as: How would the Federation explain Spock's death and resurrection?

By telling the truth, presumably.

I don't think they need to explain the "Vulcan Mysticism" part of it, but rather its connections to Project Genesis?

Project Genesis led to the creation of an entire planet and star system, the disappearance of a nebula, and was openly spoken about with a foreign ambassador on the floor of the Federation Council. The cat was out of the bag there; it was already part of the public record. No reason to hide it from there.
 
I suppose my question might be more accurately asked as: How would the Federation explain Spock's death and resurrection?

By telling the truth, presumably.

I don't think they need to explain the "Vulcan Mysticism" part of it, but rather its connections to Project Genesis?

Project Genesis led to the creation of an entire planet and star system, the disappearance of a nebula, and was openly spoken about with a foreign ambassador on the floor of the Federation Council. The cat was out of the bag there; it was already part of the public record. No reason to hide it from there.

You're assuming that meeting was open to the public.
 
Well, it was open to the enemies of the Federation! The one thing the public would immediately learn about that meeting would be any dark secrets that the UFP might possibly want to keep; the Klingons would make sure of that.

Media censorship or bias is hardly an obstacle to the obtaining of information. If public today is ill informed, it's got more to do with the public than with the information channels. Some people are just lazy readers...

Timo Saloniemi
 
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