Would it be wrong if Burnham never becomes a captain?

[Jayson1]

I was thinking of something. I know I mentioned this once or maybe twice but I don't see the logic of having two characters basically with the same arc in wanting to become a captain in both Burnham and Tilly. The other thing is her going from where she is now to being a Captain is the most straightforward and predictable arc you could possible do.

Me I would prefer the series end with Tilly becoming Captain and Burnham having another fate, maybe even death, no doubt dying for a noble cause. We have seen plenty of series leads die in the shows final episode such as Walt on :Breaking Bad" possibly Tony Soprano on his show and even Bill Paxton died on "Big Love."

Granted death is not a arc except maybe if you are talking about a show like "The Big C." but then that means the character would need a new path and arc and what would you like to see it be? Me I want to see her Break Bad so to speak at least in one season. Instead of becoming more Starfleet why not have her become less Starfleet yet still vital to the missions ad plans involving the ship with each year? Granted I also want her to have more of a sense of humor but you can still do that as well. Maybe she even joins Georgiou and works with Section 31. I mean their is so many more interesting things you can do if your not content to just stick her on her easy to predict path.

Jason

 

[Spot261]

Essentially put them in competition with one another?

 

[Jayson1]

Essentially put them in competition with one another?

That might work. Of course one will have to win so you wonder about the fate of the other. While I think I prefer Burnham going evil I do kind of like the idea of Tilly doing it as well. The corruption of innocence and all that and they kind of sort of set up that theme with Captain Killy even if we never actually got to see Captain Killy though my money is she is still out their somewhere. Lorca proably was't the first Captain from the mirror universe to not go down with their ship. I just wouldn't want to blame it all on the energy particle which would ruin the drama but then again this is most likely a season 3 story more than a season 2 one.

Jason

 

[Refuge]

Maybe they both could be captains? Burnham of USS Bounty and Tilly of the USS Fucking Awesome??

 

[Jayson1]

Maybe they both could be captains? Burnham of USS Bounty and Tilly of the USS Fucking Awesome??

Well I did kind of have the idea if one of them broke bad they would find themselves working on and maybe being a captain on a rogue ship of some sorts. Be nice to see Trek's version of Serenity.

Jason

 

[Rahul]

Tilly is a cadet. She's not going to become a Captain during the duration of the series. Burnham might.

My prediction would be Burnham to become the Captain of the Discovery in one or two seasons (depending on who the next Captain will be, and how fast he/she gets disposed), and Tilly most likely becoming the Captain of another ship at the very end of the series, when the characters dispand (like Riker becoming Captain of the Titan at the end of Nemesis).

 

[Jayson1]

Tilly is a cadet. She's not going to become a Captain during the duration of the series. Burnham might.

My prediction would be Burnham to become the Captain of the Discovery in one or two seasons (depending on who the next Captain will be, and how fast he/she gets disposed), and Tilly most likely becoming the Captain of another ship at the very end of the series, when the characters dispand (like Riker becoming Captain of the Titan at the end of Nemesis).

Actually there is no reason the show can't jump ahead of time. It's something you see more and more on tv. "Alias" had the main character missing for a year and then "Battlestar Galatica" did it's jump ahead with the New Caprica arc. I even find some of the time jumps we have see on "Last Man on Earth to be kind of funny. Me I would prefer Saru as captain with Burnham as first officer and then she defects or goes bad or however you put it for some greater good maybe at the mid season break. The second half has a new character first officer who it;s just occuried to me could be the Section 31 guy who is playing the role of a typical Starfleet guy. He is found out and then in season 3 you skip ahead a year and you find Tilly as first officer. Also I don't think TIlly is a cadet. Or is she? Now I am curious because I thought she was a new ensign or something. Anyways maybe in the final season Saru gets promoted to Admiral and Tilly becomes the captain thought I wouldn't mind if this show shook things up even more and have the ship destroyed and replaced in a middle season. I mean why not break some old Trek rules if you can. I know TNG they thought about destroying the D before the movies yet they backed out of it. "Discovery" can take that chance you would hope.

Jason

 

[Kane_Steel]

I'm okay with Captain Burnham, but it needs to happen much later in the series. Sonequa and Burnham are too young at this point. Captain Burnham is inevitable though.

I hope we never see Captain Tilly... it would be a horrific sight. But since this show really only has 4 lead characters (Burnham, Tilly, Staments and Saru), I wouldn't be surprised if Tilly gets her wish to be a Captain sooner or later.

Personally, I'm hoping none of these new characters survive into the TOS era.

 

[Groppler Zorn]

I’d have thought Burnham’s record would make it impossible to get a command. Remember Worf in the one where Jadzia was injured on that planet and the cardassian chap died? Sisko suggested Worf probably would never get a command of his own. Granted the disco crew likely trusts Burnham now - and they all heard her speech... but starfleet is a big organisation. We can’t assume that a crew who doesn’t know her would trust a former mutineer whether her record had been expunged or not.

Burnham will probably end up bypassing captain altogether and end up becoming the president of the federation.

 

[Jayson1]

I still don't see the big deal of her being a mutineer. I seems like every Starfleet character on Trek has defied orders and crossed some lines that would get you fired in the real world.

Jason

 

[ITDUDE]

I can see Burnham dying saving Discovery and Tilly becoming captain of some new ship quickly. I think it’s the best arc conclusion for both characters. Kelvin Kirk went from cadet to captain in one movie, if anyone else can do it, it’s Tilly

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I’d have thought Burnham’s record would make it impossible to get a command.

Since she was cleared of all charges and her record was wiped clean, that's no longer a problem.

 

[Mudd]

I'm sure it would be fine.

 

[Groppler Zorn]

Since she was cleared of all charges and her record was wiped clean, that's no longer a problem.

Maybe so, but would you want to serve under someone who you knew had mutinied? It’s no longer a problem on paper but as I said, that’s no guarantee that anyone in starfleet (disco crew excepted) would want to have her as their captain.

 

[seigezunt]

I never understood why the lead had to be the captain/commander.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Maybe so, but would you want to serve under someone who you knew had mutinied?

Depends on WHY they did it. People know by now that Burnham was not responsible for the Klingon war and she didn't mutiny for her own personal glory. So I think most would be OK with her.

that’s no guarantee that anyone in starfleet (disco crew excepted) would want to have her as their captain.

Not sure they'd have a choice, really...if Starfleet gives her a ship, it's hers, and the crew had best just suck it up and deal with it.

 

[Kor]

Starfleet is in the public eye. No doubt, Burnham's pardon is being accompanied by a big PR campaign painting her as a hero and downplaying the original conviction as "all a big misunderstanding." Everybody will get along just fine in no time.

Kor

 

[Lord Garth]

Everyone expects Burnham to become Captain. For that reason, I think it would be more interesting if she were offered... and then she'd not only turn it down but turn away from Starfleet altogether.

 

[Vger23]

I'd rather none of the current characters ever become captain.

 

[CaptainMurdock]

Nope. But it would be okay if she was Airlock inspector.

Spoiler: Lost in Space related.

I just hope Posey Parker isn't around to open said airlock.