If I did a "Best TNG Film" thread, it would most likely end with FC as the winner. So, I instead did a more, shall we say, challenging thread.
So, which TNG film is the worst?
So, which TNG film is the worst?
Wost TNG film?
- Thread starter Emperor-Tiberius
- Start date
I agree with you... FC 
was the best. In my humble (yet highly regarded
) opinion... Generations was the worst 
... I had the movie on VHS yet couldnt' bring myself to watch it more than once. I gave all my VHS collection (about 300) to my niece and her hubby for Christ mass.
Unfortunately my only ST DVD is Nemesis
that my ex bought & left. When they hit the 2/$10 bin at Wal-Mart (read Borg-Mart) then I'll restore my collection.
Unless of course someone knows where to download them for free (Dear Mods: not that I'm asking
).
was the best. In my humble (yet highly regarded) opinion... Generations was the worst ... I had the movie on VHS yet couldnt' bring myself to watch it more than once. I gave all my VHS collection (about 300) to my niece and her hubby for Christ mass.Unfortunately my only ST DVD is Nemesis
that my ex bought & left. When they hit the 2/$10 bin at Wal-Mart (read Borg-Mart) then I'll restore my collection.Unless of course someone knows where to download them for free (Dear Mods: not that I'm asking
).
I loved Generations when it first came out (All except for Kirk's death). I must have watched the Enterprise-D plow into Veridian III hundreds of times.
I have to go with the obvious candidate Nemesis, because I hated it right away and only bought the DVD to complete the set. I watched it just once, on DVD, to make sure that it was as awful as I remembered. It was worse.
I have to go with the obvious candidate Nemesis, because I hated it right away and only bought the DVD to complete the set. I watched it just once, on DVD, to make sure that it was as awful as I remembered. It was worse.
Ya, Nemesis for me as well. That one just crapped all over TNG.
INS is okay, FC great, Generations, oddly, gets worse every time I watch it.
INS is okay, FC great, Generations, oddly, gets worse every time I watch it.
I voted Insurrection.
I see that I am in the minority, but Insurrection didn't really advance anything in terms of story - it was a long episode.
Generations did what it had to do, pass the torch. It was successful in that respect.
Nemesis did what it had to do, close the book on TNG. It was also a good story. Baird isn't an actor's director, that much is for certain, but the story was good enough, the antagonist was good enough and the actors could direct themselves well enough that it was better than most movies.
Now, it was not all that it could have been for certain - I remember that sitting in the theatre I thought the characters' level of intensity and connectedness to the story was a bit thin but it still remains rewatchable.
I see that I am in the minority, but Insurrection didn't really advance anything in terms of story - it was a long episode.
Generations did what it had to do, pass the torch. It was successful in that respect.
Nemesis did what it had to do, close the book on TNG. It was also a good story. Baird isn't an actor's director, that much is for certain, but the story was good enough, the antagonist was good enough and the actors could direct themselves well enough that it was better than most movies.
Now, it was not all that it could have been for certain - I remember that sitting in the theatre I thought the characters' level of intensity and connectedness to the story was a bit thin but it still remains rewatchable.
It passed a torch that had already been passed multiple times. The show was immensely popular in its own right — at its peak, TNG was pulling in around 20 million viewers. And then there's the guest appearances by De Kelley, Mark Lenard, Leonard Nimoy, and James Doohan. Oh, yeah, and then there's Kirk correcting himself ("...where no man... no one has gone before.") in his final log entry in TUC. Passing the torch in Generations was overkill.
I agree with you... FC
Unfortunately my only ST DVD is Nemesis
Unless of course someone knows where to download them for free (Dear Mods: not that I'm asking
You're alright, in my book. 
Exactly!
See? We agree, for once.
Last edited:
GEN was born when the TNG people were doing season 7. That season was tired, and the result of that was a movie that was... Pointless.
Horrible script, inane situations, and the most unimaginably incoherent plot, this side of VOY. Inconsistency after inconsistency, clear disregard to the show and characters's history, and an insulting end to Enterprise D (I mean, look how the original Enterprise and Enterprise-C went out, and look at this!), and James T. Kirk.
A big dissapointment, a film thats truly worse with each passing viewing. Best enjoyed around season 3 of DS9, for quality recovery value ( trust me
).
Now, FC is, obviously so, the best TNG film. In fact, it might be, the only good one. I liked NEM, to a degree, but it was riddled with plot holes that were, immeasurable. Also, the film feels sort - they should've released the whole lot of cut scenes they had, to truly have some fan recover the loss of the film's editing.
INS is a big long episode, tiresome at worst, but still tolerable. I'd wish they had explained with this movie why wasn't Enterprise E in DS9's Final Battle arc, in some way, with having them deal with TNG's season 1 Parasites, maybe?
Anywho, FC is the best TNG film, and one of the best Trek films for that matter, INS is ok, NEM is frustrating but OK, and GEN is the single worst TNG film.
Horrible script, inane situations, and the most unimaginably incoherent plot, this side of VOY. Inconsistency after inconsistency, clear disregard to the show and characters's history, and an insulting end to Enterprise D (I mean, look how the original Enterprise and Enterprise-C went out, and look at this!), and James T. Kirk.
A big dissapointment, a film thats truly worse with each passing viewing. Best enjoyed around season 3 of DS9, for quality recovery value ( trust me
).Now, FC is, obviously so, the best TNG film. In fact, it might be, the only good one. I liked NEM, to a degree, but it was riddled with plot holes that were, immeasurable. Also, the film feels sort - they should've released the whole lot of cut scenes they had, to truly have some fan recover the loss of the film's editing.
INS is a big long episode, tiresome at worst, but still tolerable. I'd wish they had explained with this movie why wasn't Enterprise E in DS9's Final Battle arc, in some way, with having them deal with TNG's season 1 Parasites, maybe?
Anywho, FC is the best TNG film, and one of the best Trek films for that matter, INS is ok, NEM is frustrating but OK, and GEN is the single worst TNG film.
Insurrection for me. Generations was a close second. Both bad films. And I'm gonna say it...I liked Nemesis. It's no First Contact, but fun, still.
I'm going to say The Wild, Wild Planet (1965). Weird story, special effects that were cornball cheap even for the pre-2001: A Space Odyssey approach to special effects. Whole thing filmed in Italian and dubbed halfheartedly while some confusing plot about shrunken androids or something goes on ... and you don't even get any beauty shots of the Enterprise in it. By all measures, this is the least Next Generation a movie can get.
Nemesis by a galactic mile (2.6% longer than a country mile )
Insurrection was uninspired but no worse than a lot of what the series produced.
Generations was pretty good; some good ideas, overly tied down by what the studio wanted the writers to do.
First contact was fantastic.
)Insurrection was uninspired but no worse than a lot of what the series produced.
Generations was pretty good; some good ideas, overly tied down by what the studio wanted the writers to do.
First contact was fantastic.
L
Lord Garth
Guest
I've only seen NEM once and that was in 2002.
I guess that's my least favorite. cultcross covered what I would've said about the others, though I'm not too huge on GEN.
I guess that's my least favorite. cultcross covered what I would've said about the others, though I'm not too huge on GEN.
Only 2 votes for GEN? Really now, am I the only one who finds it the most offensive Trek before VOY or ENT ever embraced the small screen?
O.K., I agree Generations wasn't a good film, but why should it be offensive?
I voted for Insurrection, followed by Generations and Nemesis, which I don't think is as bad as it's reputation, to be honest. The only good TNG movie IMHO is First Contact, though.
Generations is NOWHERE near as bad as Insurrection and Nemesis.
To be honest, INS isn't as nearly as offensive, its just TV material - it'd have been an average TV episode, to say that. And NEM is flawed, but yeah, not as as its reputation.
But GEN is downright insulting.
That said, I believe everyone will agree that FC is the best TNG film they've ever done.
But GEN is downright insulting.
That said, I believe everyone will agree that FC is the best TNG film they've ever done.
Similar threads
