Worst lines of dialogue in Trek?

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  1. CorporalCaptain

    CorporalCaptain Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    If you're talking about this conversation in "Where Silence Has Lease," it was neither Data nor Troi whom Picard was talking to [http://www.chakoteya.net/NextGen/128.htm]:

    DATA: What is death?
    PICARD: Oh, is that all? Well, Data, you're asking probably the most difficult of all questions. Some see it as a changing into an indestructible form, forever unchanging. They believe that the purpose of the entire universe is to then maintain that form in an Earth-like garden which will give delight and pleasure through all eternity. On the other hand, there are those who hold to the idea of our blinking into nothingness, with all our experiences, hopes and dreams merely a delusion.
    DATA: Which do you believe, sir?
    PICARD: Considering the marvellous complexity of our universe, its clockwork perfection, its balances of this against that, matter, energy, gravitation, time, dimension, I believe that our existence must be more than either of these philosophies. That what we are goes beyond Euclidian and other practical measuring systems and that our existence is part of a reality beyond what we understand now as reality.
    TROI: We should not let ourselves die, Jean-Luc.
    DATA: I agree with her, Jean-Luc.
    TROI: If only half of us live, then I'd rather take my chances on being one that does.
    DATA: Yes. It is wrong of you to force us.
    TROI: It is wrong.
    PICARD: Yes. This is very wrong. Neither of you should be reacting in this way. Computer, locate Commander Data for me.
    COMPUTER: Commander Data is on the Bridge.
    PICARD: It's not going to work, Nagilum.
    (Troi and Data vanish)​

    They were illusions created by Nagilum.
     
  2. Oddish

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    Picard did not know that at the time. He gave what he believed to be Data the best answer he could.
     
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  3. CorporalCaptain

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    Yes, but the point is that Data didn't ask Picard anything then.

    It wasn't Data.
     
  4. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Spiner wasn't credited as anyone else, was he? :p
     
  5. CorporalCaptain

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    :rolleyes:
     
  6. Grant

    Grant Commodore Commodore

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    Wow. Somebody won an argument
     
  7. Orphalesion

    Orphalesion Commodore Commodore

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    Well of course not, those weren't Brent Spiner and Marina Sirtis in that scene. It was Nagilum impersonating them. Nagilum is not credited because it's not part of the Screen Actor's Union, so there would have been legal problems.
     
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  8. Oddish

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    Fine. If it's going to ignite a hissy fit, I'll reiterate. NAGILIUM asked Picard what death was.

    Sheesh, some people. :rolleyes:
     
  9. 1001001

    1001001 Very Stable Genius Moderator

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    Nobody had a “hissy fit” (except maybe you, here).

    They corrected you because you were wrong.

    It happens when you say things that aren’t right, especially on a Star Trek board.
     
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  10. Oddish

    Oddish Fleet Captain Captain

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    The really disturbing thing is that I'll probably fit right in here...
     
  11. Forsythe

    Forsythe Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    The one that makes me think Reverend Jim is when Kruge says "I've come a long way for the power of Genesis, and what do I find? A weakling human, a Vulcan boy, and a woman"
    I was almost waiting for him to say "Alex!"
    Probably not the worst dialogue, but one that makes me giggle every single time.
     
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  12. ananta

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    Janeway in “Year of Hell”: “Time’s up!” Cheesy action film type one-liner, totally took me out of the moment and made me cringe.
     
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  13. Oddish

    Oddish Fleet Captain Captain

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    I liked it fine, but I like cheesy action movie one-liners, too. What do you think Janeway's last words should have been?
     
  14. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Pretty much everything Commodore Oh said in the Picard finale.
    It was so over the top, so much cartoonish villain soundbyte bollocks it undermined the seriousness of what was going on.

    Like, I love scenery chewing stuff but this was Power Rangers.
     
  15. 1001001

    1001001 Very Stable Genius Moderator

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    Disagree! "Time's Up" was a badass line, delivered perfectly.


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  16. Delta Vega

    Delta Vega Commodore Commodore

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    "Make it so"
     
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  17. at Quark's

    at Quark's Commodore Commodore

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    I think I would have preferred her to mumble some incomprehensible, pseudo-intellectual quote from a postmodernist writer that fancied himself (or herself) a great light of literature but who already went into obscurity long before his (or her) death.
     
  18. Oddish

    Oddish Fleet Captain Captain

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    So be it. I prefer "Time's up."
     
  19. Tenacity

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    The point was that Picard handled it nicely, it was about Picard's response to the question asked, and his personal thoughts on the matter.

    If you want to get exact, it was Brent Spiner who spoke the question.
     
  20. ananta

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    Hmm, probably anything but what we got. Anything that didn’t sound like they were trying to make Janeway the Trek equivalent of Arnie Schwartzenegger. It just totally took me out of the moment. I’d rather she’d stayed silent and let her facial expression do the talking, would have been more powerful. Mind you, whichever way you swing it the ending was a terrible anticlimax.
     
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