Dang. If only those shields hadn't gone up, I tell ya!
Worst characters in each series
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TOS: Kirk
TNG: Wesley
DS9: N/A
VOY: 1st EMH, 2nd Neelix, 3rd Kim, 4th Chakotay, 5th Seven
ENT: Archer
NuTrek: NuUhura
TNG: Wesley
DS9: N/A
VOY: 1st EMH, 2nd Neelix, 3rd Kim, 4th Chakotay, 5th Seven
ENT: Archer
NuTrek: NuUhura
^Pulaski, yes good point, had completely forgotten (as expected
). As for NuTrek the doctor is annoying because he's playing the same ridiculous personality 100% of the time which gets tiresome.
TOS: Yeoman Rand. Grace Lee Whitney had presence & was gorgeous, and should have been given real things to do. But as a character, she was there just to serve Kirk, and it seemed a little demeaning and useless.
Chapel seems to be a popular pick-- The actress was there for obvious reasons. But her minor, unrequited love schtick was a cute side thing that served its purpose. Chapel never meant to be much. Majel Barrett looked much better in "The Cage"- the blonde 'do didn't do much for her.
TNG: Geordi LaForge. Waste of a good actor, and to lose those expressive eyes behind the Visor was a loss. Geordi was at turns bland, moody-- his initial behavior toward Scotty in " Relics" was a turn off. His inability to interact with women was bizarre- that's was awkward teen behavior,from a grown man. LeVar Burton had so much more to give than the writers gave him.
DS9- Jadzia Dax. The actress & writers got a handle on the character a little too late, then she left. Just didn't buy her character as an "Old Man"- just because you say in the script that she's a wisened Trill with all these lifetimes of experiences, doesn't mean it works onscreen.
Chapel seems to be a popular pick-- The actress was there for obvious reasons. But her minor, unrequited love schtick was a cute side thing that served its purpose. Chapel never meant to be much. Majel Barrett looked much better in "The Cage"- the blonde 'do didn't do much for her.
TNG: Geordi LaForge. Waste of a good actor, and to lose those expressive eyes behind the Visor was a loss. Geordi was at turns bland, moody-- his initial behavior toward Scotty in " Relics" was a turn off. His inability to interact with women was bizarre- that's was awkward teen behavior,from a grown man. LeVar Burton had so much more to give than the writers gave him.
DS9- Jadzia Dax. The actress & writers got a handle on the character a little too late, then she left. Just didn't buy her character as an "Old Man"- just because you say in the script that she's a wisened Trill with all these lifetimes of experiences, doesn't mean it works onscreen.
Well, it would appear as someone here agrees with me on the Dax part. Ezri was better hum?
I haven't seen enough of Voyager or Enterprise to make any decisions here, but I sort of remember feeling like the writers were playing with fire when it came to Neelix. I did see season 1 back in 1995, and remember thinking that, "Hey, Neelix isn't so bad!" But then I didn't see the show beyond Season 1 (I was too busy with college and going out, not because I disliked the show).
You put my feelings towards LaForge better than I did. Like I mentioned I never cared or him because he seemed so weak compared Scotty.
But the woman thing. It's not jut he wasn't good with women, we aren't all Kirk and many of us have had issues approaching women.
It was just the way he was written he was almost high schoolish is his level of not being able to be successful. It really seemed such an extreme trait that even adults who are awkward with women wouldn't show.
I mean again his biggest success was kissing a hologram Leah Brahams who then made comparisons between the warp engines and her breasts.
mmmmm I understand there is a difference between "characters I don't like" and "worst written/realized character" so I'll just list both:
TOS
Hate: Kirk and McCoy. Too old fashioned "men's men" for my taste. Also, I know it has been parodied to death but ....I can't....stand....the way....Kirk....speaks.
"Worst": Chapel, especially in "Amok Time"
TNG
Hate and "Worst": Wesley, he is the definition of "creators pet" and a little over-privileged sh*thead if I may say so.
DS9:
Hate and "Worst": Jadzia "which random character trait/talent/interest will I develop this episode" Dax.
Special mention for early Bashir, before he grew a sense of dignity.
Voy:
Hate: The EMH, sorry, I know he's popular, but he just rubs me the wrong way with his self-involved, narcissistic character and his opera singing and his creepin' on Seven. Also the "other lifefrom tries to understand humanity" was already done twice and better with Data and Odo (who were both actually likable in my eyes)
Hate and "Worst": Harry "the Amazing Wallpaper Man" Kim. He is just does nothing but stand there and grin stupid and no matter what that magazine article said Garret Wang is not hot. Edit: he actually is kinda cute with long hair and now that he's older and doesn't look like a little boy anymore.
ENT:
Hate and Worst: Archer. Not only has he a whiny voice but seriously, that was the most qualified person they could find to be the representative of Earth in outer space?
TOS
Hate: Kirk and McCoy. Too old fashioned "men's men" for my taste. Also, I know it has been parodied to death but ....I can't....stand....the way....Kirk....speaks.
"Worst": Chapel, especially in "Amok Time"
TNG
Hate and "Worst": Wesley, he is the definition of "creators pet" and a little over-privileged sh*thead if I may say so.
DS9:
Hate and "Worst": Jadzia "which random character trait/talent/interest will I develop this episode" Dax.
Special mention for early Bashir, before he grew a sense of dignity.
Voy:
Hate: The EMH, sorry, I know he's popular, but he just rubs me the wrong way with his self-involved, narcissistic character and his opera singing and his creepin' on Seven. Also the "other lifefrom tries to understand humanity" was already done twice and better with Data and Odo (who were both actually likable in my eyes)
Hate and "Worst": Harry "the Amazing Wallpaper Man" Kim. He is just does nothing but stand there and grin stupid and no matter what that magazine article said Garret Wang is not hot. Edit: he actually is kinda cute with long hair and now that he's older and doesn't look like a little boy anymore.
ENT:
Hate and Worst: Archer. Not only has he a whiny voice but seriously, that was the most qualified person they could find to be the representative of Earth in outer space?
TOS: Ummm I don't really want to choose anyone, but Chekov was kind of grating sometimes. Plenty likable at others, though.
TNG: Troi. Slightly more tolerable when they get out her out of those ridiculous pajama outfits and into a uniform, and tone down her incessant stating of the obvious, but still pretty annoying. That she and her mother kept popping up throughout the spinoffs was irritating too.
DS9: Jadzia was the weakest of the main characters. Rom had a tendency to grate when overused.
Voyager: Harry. Or Chakotay. They're kind of interchangeably bland to me.
Enterprise: Oh, probably Travis. He just never got anything to do.
TNG: Troi. Slightly more tolerable when they get out her out of those ridiculous pajama outfits and into a uniform, and tone down her incessant stating of the obvious, but still pretty annoying. That she and her mother kept popping up throughout the spinoffs was irritating too.
DS9: Jadzia was the weakest of the main characters. Rom had a tendency to grate when overused.
Voyager: Harry. Or Chakotay. They're kind of interchangeably bland to me.
Enterprise: Oh, probably Travis. He just never got anything to do.
TOS: Mr Kyle. He smugly wore a jumpsuit and just basically stood around and got in Scotty's way at the transporter! Seriously though, none of the characters in TOS really annoyed me. So I would have to say the one I like the least would be Chekov. But that isn't so much as I dislike Chekov, because I like the character. I just like the other characters more.
TNG: Guinan. I am not a fan of Whoopi Goldeberg. Every character she ever plays is just Whoopi, which is all I ever saw Guinan as.
DS9: I'm going to have to go with Jadzia on this one, though early seasons of Kira make it a tough call. Kira at least had growth, and for me at least, actually became likable. As for Jadzia, its more to do with Terry Farrell, than the character itself. Other than being physically attractive, there isn't much positive I could say about her. Farrell was not a very convincing actress for me. The idea of a character with a slug in their stomach can be acted convincingly, which Ezri Dax proves. Heck if you want to go outside of Star Trek, you have Teal'C. But when it comes to Jadzia, she almost always came off as smug, and I never for a minute bought her as a character having 300 years of wisdom.
VOY: Kim. I doubt I could add any new reasons for not liking him, that haven't already been said 184630954238024 times before.
ENT: Mayweather just didn't seem that interesting. It's not that he did anything wrong, its just that he was a boring character.
Reboot: Uhura. Especially as the nagging, pissed off girlfriend of Spock in STID.
TNG: Guinan. I am not a fan of Whoopi Goldeberg. Every character she ever plays is just Whoopi, which is all I ever saw Guinan as.
DS9: I'm going to have to go with Jadzia on this one, though early seasons of Kira make it a tough call. Kira at least had growth, and for me at least, actually became likable. As for Jadzia, its more to do with Terry Farrell, than the character itself. Other than being physically attractive, there isn't much positive I could say about her. Farrell was not a very convincing actress for me. The idea of a character with a slug in their stomach can be acted convincingly, which Ezri Dax proves. Heck if you want to go outside of Star Trek, you have Teal'C. But when it comes to Jadzia, she almost always came off as smug, and I never for a minute bought her as a character having 300 years of wisdom.
VOY: Kim. I doubt I could add any new reasons for not liking him, that haven't already been said 184630954238024 times before.
ENT: Mayweather just didn't seem that interesting. It's not that he did anything wrong, its just that he was a boring character.
Reboot: Uhura. Especially as the nagging, pissed off girlfriend of Spock in STID.
TOS: Scotty
TNG: Lwaxana
DS9: Kira
VOY: Neelix
ENT: Phlox
Reboot: Uhura
TNG: Lwaxana
DS9: Kira
VOY: Neelix
ENT: Phlox
Reboot: Uhura
TOS regular: Chekov--sometimes his clownish behavior went too far.
TOS supporting: Rand--I can think of very few meaningful things she did beyond being the "not girlfriend" to Charlie.
TNG regular: Troi--far too much of an outsider to be so central to so many stories. It seems like they struggled to put Sirtis into the middle of the action, but it never seemed warranted.
TNG supporter: Tomalak--not well developed, too much bravado.
DS9 regular: Dax (both of them)--perhaps an unfair choice because Farrell was never going to shine amongst the cast and de Boers came in late.
DS9 supporter: Shakaar: it was neck and neck with Bareil, but Shakaar could have been a major recurring character with the direction of the show in the late seasons. Instead, he went from Quiet Man to quite boring.
VOY regular: Paris--too creepy to be a believable stud.
VOY supporter: Borg Queen--increasingly became just an adversary for Janeway rather than a representation of the Borg.
ENT regular: Mayweather--unbelievably wide-eyed
ENT supporter: Daniels--passive aggrassive. Archer's popularity may have improved had he slugged Daniels.
TOS supporting: Rand--I can think of very few meaningful things she did beyond being the "not girlfriend" to Charlie.
TNG regular: Troi--far too much of an outsider to be so central to so many stories. It seems like they struggled to put Sirtis into the middle of the action, but it never seemed warranted.
TNG supporter: Tomalak--not well developed, too much bravado.
DS9 regular: Dax (both of them)--perhaps an unfair choice because Farrell was never going to shine amongst the cast and de Boers came in late.
DS9 supporter: Shakaar: it was neck and neck with Bareil, but Shakaar could have been a major recurring character with the direction of the show in the late seasons. Instead, he went from Quiet Man to quite boring.
VOY regular: Paris--too creepy to be a believable stud.
VOY supporter: Borg Queen--increasingly became just an adversary for Janeway rather than a representation of the Borg.
ENT regular: Mayweather--unbelievably wide-eyed
ENT supporter: Daniels--passive aggrassive. Archer's popularity may have improved had he slugged Daniels.
^And it's Starfleet.
--Sran
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I gotta agree with you in part when it comes to LaForge and Dax. Levar Burton is/was a phenomenal actor that got cast in a role that certainly could have made better use of his abilities. In my opinion, he made a better Trek director than actor.
Jadzia Dax is actually one of my favorite characters on DS9 but you're right that she didn't exactly live up to the expectations I had for a centuries old being. Calling her 'old man' all the time only served to remind that the character wasn't as coherent as I'd have liked
I LOVED Vic! too!! He was great--and I also loved the touch where Mirror Vic is flesh and blood.
There is only one character I truly loathed: Ro Laren. I hated Ro Laren.
More than Neelix?!
How I wish that character had never had been, and that they'd given the huge amounts of screen time wasted on him to the absurdly underused Tim Russ.
But I liked Ro. Among other things, IMO: hot.
