Worldbuilding in Season 1
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Oh, that old chestnut.
Also, um, your username says otherwiseWhew, I thought I was a goner.
Think it's normally called a "BB".
Also, um, your username says otherwise
I love the Halloween and Christmas name changes - I never participate myself for whatever reason, but I still think it's fantastic that the board powers allow them and that so many of you get into the obvious fun. Henoch, ERRRR Dead Henoch is particularly adept at finding endless Henoch-related holiday fun and hilarious images.
Back to S1 - which is my least favorite of the three, but that's like saying that Spock is my least favorite of the Scotty/Kirk/Spock character group, or that Thanksgiving is my least favorite major October-December holiday - I really liked the observation by @Thread Creep (another brilliant holiday name change
!) earlier that there were fewer alien-related episodes and more installments concerning human colonists. Then of course S2 has an explosion of alien-related worldbuilding, particularly in "Journey to Babel" but also in many others. S3 continues with the alien theme. I never really made that connection before. I'm sure you can argue it the other way and find counterexamples, but now that I think about it, the S1 "human focus" is quite striking.
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And not just human focus, but Earth focus. It's interesting seeing the scope expand over time.
I am really not enjoying the Shatnering that started in the second season, though.
Like the first comment . . . on the second, we must part company.
<hunches and spreads hands>"That's...fine... ifwedon'tagree. Some...PEOPle...reallylikewhathe'sdoing."
Well then you're in for a rough ride. I enjoy what he does throughout all 79 episodes, even when he's swinging for the fences, but the pauses and emphasis when people imitate him are generally exaggerated for the sake of a giggle. It doesn't happen as often as all that until year 3. Then the newer directors would seem to defer to him. But he still put in great work. I wish I had the same vocal and physical control he did. I give the man credit for not ever being part of the scenery like some actors might (Paul Burke, Martin Milner, etc.).
I remember he once said he did that because he was trying to remember what to say next. I don't know how true it is, but when I did theater, I caught myself pausing the same way when I was up on the next line.
Either way, one either enjoys it or not. I have no problems.
I remember he once said he did that because he was trying to remember what to say next. I don't know how true it is, but when I did theater, I caught myself pausing the same way when I was up on the next line.
Either way, one either enjoys it or not. I have no problems.
Perfectly said. Even when he's very broad and exaggerated - which is far less often than sometimes claimed - his charisma and likeability are off the charts.
I noticed it as early as "Amok Time" but most blatantly..in... the APPle."
Burke is SO bleah. Maharis is def > Milner.
I saw that interview, too. But I also read the August 1967 article where he explicitly says he's going to put more of himself into the role so he can sell himself rather than the role, a la Bogart, Grant, Wayne, etc.
"Why...must he die? WHY within eight days?" Yeah I can see him being bolder, more dramatic rather than natural. He also still had a lot of very subtle tricks that get overlooked in the drama. But I know a number of people who share your opinion. For me, he was only eye-rollingly hyper-dramatic a few times (and a couple of them were in early year 1).
Then Marahis was replaced by Corbett and suddenly Milner was the most interesting actor by default.
He did succeed in creating a unique acting style and persona that way. There really is only one Bill Shatner (a collective "thank God" from the supporting cast follows.. with Doohan snarking "and that's one too goddamned many").
No one agrees with me, but his weakest performance in S1 was his first.
God, yes. Corbett killed the show.
Hahaha.
I can think of only one time he went too far for me: Kirk's elevator wig-out in "And the Children..." Otherwise, I was along for the ride with no complaints.
Kirok had a few beauts...I can think of only one time he went too far for me: Kirk's elevator wig-out in "And the Children..." Otherwise, I was along for the ride with no complaints.
I guess by your definition explicit is mentioned in dialogue? Because the Vulcan system has been labelled as 40 Eridani on a few maps in the new shows.
That's probably what she also did the first time she learned how to read English as a child.
I really liked how the Squire of Gothos implied that Star Trek takes place about 800 years in the future. And I seem to recall another episode that implied the same thing. I wish that was what caught on. It seems more plausible to me that it would take several centuries for us to go that much faster than light. And it would make it easier to believe that many of the people they meet who are identical to humans but have funny names, cultures, and clothes -- are all actual humans, whose cultures are different because they've been on these planets for centuries. I find that more interesting than convergent evolution.
I agree the official "1966 plus 300 years" gives us a tight timeline, and if Space Seed's "200 years" dialogue were to be taken literally, it would become impossibly tight.
But there is wiggle room in "Gothos." Specifically, Mr. Jaeger is wrong when he looks at Trelane's decor and decides it is 900 years out of date. Jaeger is just guessing at the period. Then Trelane demonstrates later that he can do space travel and outrun the Enterprise. So Trelane could have viewed the Earth up close at any time, and "Gothos" does not nail down the time of TOS.
Exactly my thoughts too - Jaeger is a geophysicist, not a historian. Where's McGivers when you need her?
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