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World Cup 2010 - South Africa Thread

What was the red card at the end of the game for, anyone know?

An elbow check of Costa's in the Spaniard's face (forgot his name). They showed a replay on German TV where you could see it.
Considering how lenient the ref was before that, it came as a surprise but he was very quick in showing it so he probably had a good view.
 
The England squad needs to be completely started from scratch, the slate needs to be wiped clean. The next manager or if Capello ends up staying on needs to go out looking for fresh young skilled players. No more old players, we need players who are young, fit, fast and agile.

England always seemed to be knackered before the first half was even over with. We cannot hope to win with these old timers.

The problem I see is this. When choosing which players are to play for England all they've done is looked at which football clubs top the premiership, looked at each of those clubs for English players and plonked all those English players into the England squad.

It's nothing to do with their skill, or studying them play.

Just because these players are in the top 3 clubs of the premiership does not mean they are good players. It's the foreign players in those squads that are responsible for those clubs being top of the premiership not the English players. They would still be top of the table without the English players.

Look at Rooney for example, without Ronaldo by his side and the other highly skilled players from such nations as Brazil or Argentina he would be a shit footballer and we saw this was the case in the World Cup. Without these top highly skilled foreign players by his side at Manchester United he is a nobody.

It's time to look further afield and beyond the top premiership clubs. Time to study English footballers on a one on one basis and grade their skill, fitness and attitude and then create a new England squad from scratch.

Well considering Rooney played the last season with no Ronaldo and had a fanstastic goal scoring year pretty much as United's only striker most of the time would seem to dispel this, as would the fact that Liverpool tend to be at their shittest without Gerrard (or Torres to be fair).

Meanwhile of course you could argue Ronaldo had a less than stellar season without Rooney!

I'm not disagreeing that England need to rebuild but you'd have to be an insane manager to not build your front line around Rooney. One bad world cup doesn't make a bad player in the same way that one good world cup doesn't make a player a world beater.

I think your post sums up the English disease. Our team is either shit, or they're the greatest team ever! We're brilliant or we're rubbish, when the truth is usually in between. For some reason the media especially can't allow us to be ok, or better than average, or quite good.

Same with Rooney, you're essentially saying he's a terrible player, which he's not. He's a very good player who had a poor tournament-maybe because of how we played, or the manager, or his own inflated sense of self importance, or because of expectation etc etc...for whatever the reason he won't stop being about the best player we have.

Whether he really is as brilliant as people claim, is a Ronaldo or a Messi etc, is perhaps a debate that can be had but clearly he has to remain part of the England set up (but like everyone else he has to play/be dropped based on form/tactics rather than always having to play.)

Anyone else hoping that Capello stays?
 
I know Rooney is one of the better English players, but his attitude sucks. Add that in with his recent ineptness to score goals and they should leave him at home!
 
I'm not used to days without football games, anymore. Today, the election of the President will tie me over, but what about tomorrow or Friday???
 
Right, been away over the last couple of days, so my thoughts on the last few matches:

Holland vs Slovakia- Expected really. I'll be supporting Holland against Brazil, if I see the game, which I probably won't.

Brazil vs Chile- Expected again. I really want Brazil to make a slip up. They aren't the most impressive side we've ever seen and it's so boring when they win it.

Paraguay vs Japan- YES! YES! YES! I knew this was a good year to support Paraguay. And again, there is only one penalties match in the round of 16. It does sound like a boring game, though. I'll be supporting them on Saturday, but I'll be surprised if they make it past Spain.

Spain vs Portugal - As an English guy whose main experience of watching international football boils down to WC 2002, Euro 2004, and WC 2006, I must say, seeing Portugal beaten is always satisfying, and Spain has come back on form since the Switzerland 'incident'.

So for the quarter-finals, we have Holland, Brazil, Uruguay, Ghana, Argentina, Germany, Paraguay, Spain. 2 debutants in that round, and the possibility of a all-South American semi final.

For those matches, I'm supporting Holland, Ghana, Argentina and Paraguay. It's game on.
 
Slightly related to the World Cup but I thought I share this cool interpretation of the Brazilian flag that I made.

brazilflagj.jpg
 
What was the red card at the end of the game for, anyone know?

An elbow check of Costa's in the Spaniard's face (forgot his name). They showed a replay on German TV where you could see it.
Considering how lenient the ref was before that, it came as a surprise but he was very quick in showing it so he probably had a good view.

OK. I couldn't see it on the replays, but the sound was off, so I didn't have the announcers pointing out what had happened.
 
So, Netherlands vs. Brazil today (and later Urugay vs. Ghana). I must say I'm looking forward to the first game. I'll probably be sorely disappointed later on, though. :p
 
I hope Holland wins. I love Mark van Bommel and I can't stand anyone from the Selecao apart from Elano.

Anyway, I sincerely hope Germany sends the Gauchos back to the hole they crawled out of. Nobody likes Argentinians apart from Argentinians. They're so full of themselves.

And then it'll be Germany against Spain. Yay for all the cute players hacking each other to pieces on the pitch.

As for the Uruguay x Ghana match.... no idea. In the end, I don't think I care either way.
 
I hope Holland wins. I love Mark van Bommel and I can't stand anyone from the Selecao apart from Elano.
I also hope the Netherlands win, but Van Bommel is certainly a point against them on my likable scale, not for them.

Anyway, I sincerely hope Germany sends the Gauchos back to the hole they crawled out of. Nobody likes Argentinians apart from Argentinians. They're so full of themselves.

I do. And I know plenty of people who do also.
 
Anyway, I sincerely hope Germany sends the Gauchos back to the hole they crawled out of. Nobody likes Argentinians apart from Argentinians. They're so full of themselves.

I do. And I know plenty of people who do also.

I don't either. Even my Argentinian boss supports the German team.

Looks like the Dutch have some problems with injuries. Bad timing if you're facing Brazil. I don't have any stakes in this. Brazil looks like the coming World Cup winner but I wouldn't mind the Dutch winning. In fact, I'd be happy for them if they finally managed to win a big tournament.
 
I'm in awe:

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf2P8SnOwLo&feature=player_embedded#![/yt]

The Bolero piece at the end is especially amazing.
 
He had his best time before my time, so to me he's just a little, chubby man. I've never idolised any footballers or athletes, anyway.

The Netherlands still have one of the best anthems in the world, music-wise. (The lyrics are a bit weird.) :)
 
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