Worfs voice in Nemesis

[M'rk son of Mogh]

My impression was just the opposite. If you go back to Encounter at Farpoint, Worf sounds much like everyone else. Seemed to me he didn't really get to being deep-voiced yet.

You could be right, but to me it sounded more like as the seasons went on, Dorn got more relaxed with his voice.

I have two examples here that I just found to illustrate the difference I notice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G-o2TuP_Kc#t=22

versus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51CTpvCKMZ8#t=107

 

[LMFAOschwarz]

I have two examples here that I just found to illustrate the difference I notice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G-o2TuP_Kc#t=22

versus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51CTpvCKMZ8#t=107

Interesting. Based on these I'd say we're both wrong, and both right. My impression is he worked on the voice over time, until it finally did come more naturally to him. So it does sound more 'relaxed' later on, as he wasn't really having to try so hard. Maybe after that comfort zone was reached, it back-slid somewhat.

Hope that made sense!

 

[M'rk son of Mogh]

I think I see what you mean!

But my reasoning for the movie change was still wrong, even based on these examples, haha.
They changed his voice in post.

 

[Destructor]

Luckily the script conspired to give Worf almost no dialogue so the new voice wouldn't stand out.

This is what I thought- did Worf have lines in Nemesis? Maybe they just should have not fucking included him for once?

 

[DrFrankhamstien]

Watched it a couple of times (not many, obviously, because it is Nemesis) and I never noticed the difference in his voice before. I may notice next time, since I'm working through ALL of Trek in chronological order (currently on Voy-4 and DS9-6).

 

[doubleohfive]

Jesus, there's not enough to complain about this movie already?

 

[PCz911]

Jesus, there's not enough to complain about this movie already?

Too funny. Besides, maybe he and Kate m were sneaking unfiltered camels together during their various breaks on all the berman shows.

 

[StarMan]

This may warrant a re-watch... never noticed it.

A selective re-watch, mind you.

 

[bbjeg]

Watched it a couple of times (not many, obviously, because it is Nemesis) and I never noticed the difference in his voice before. I may notice next time, since I'm working through ALL of Trek in chronological order (currently on Voy-4 and DS9-6).

You should check out the rock opera in my signature when you're done.

 

[JarodRussell]

Artificially pitched down in post production because Stuart Baird thought that with 11 seasons of Worf appearances, he didn't seem "alien" enough.

Is there a source for that claim?

 

[Mudd]

Spock's voice is lower in ST:TMP than in the series.

 

[eyeresist]

This is what I thought- did Worf have lines in Nemesis? Maybe they just should have not fucking included him for once?

He had a couple of good lines: the one about Romulan ale (a bit of foreshadowing?) and the one about the Romulans having fought with honour. He also protested loudly at having to be naked for Troiker's wedding. Other than that, he gets to shoot some guns.
I think they missed a trick not making a Next Gen Klingon movie. Maybe that would have been XI.

I don't think Worf's voice has been altered. It's no deeper than Dorn's voice for I.M. Weasel!

 

[NeroShrimp]

Obviously it points to the NEM Worf being an imposter and the real
Worf is still on the Klingon homeworld hunting with Martok like he should be

Hah! I really got a kick out of reading this. Awesome!!!

 

[Lance]

Artificially pitched down in post production because Stuart Baird thought that with 11 seasons of Worf appearances, he didn't seem "alien" enough.

Is there a source for that claim?

Count is being sarcastic (), but yes, the voice was pitch-altered because Baird wanted to emphasize Worf being an alien. Which, as Count suggests, is a weird thing to do after 11 years of TV adventures where Worf was already considered sufficiently alien without voice alteration.

We should count our lucky stars that Baird didn't pitch alter all Geordi's dialogue too (his having mistaken the character for being an alien -- yes, really. )

 

[eyeresist]

Artificially pitched down in post production because Stuart Baird thought that with 11 seasons of Worf appearances, he didn't seem "alien" enough.

Is there a source for that claim?

Count is being sarcastic (), but yes, the voice was pitch-altered because Baird wanted to emphasize Worf being an alien.

As Jarod said, what's the source for this claim?

 

[Lance]

Memory Alpha has this to say:

As with the actors portraying Remans, Michael Dorn's voice was electronically lowered in pitch in post production to give Worf a more alien sound.

Count was being sarcastic when he said "After 11 seasons they didn't think he was alien enough". That isn't a factual statement, it was simply Count being facetious.

But what *I* said (that they did, in fact, pitch-correct his voice to emphasise his being an alien) is a 100% true statement.

I guess the question really is: why, after 11 television seasons and 3 movies, did they decide they needed to pitch-correct Worf's voice? Was there something wrong with Dorn's acting performance? Or was it simply an artistic decision on the part of the film-makers?

 

[FormerLurker]

Spock's voice is lower in ST:TMP than in the series.

In universe, that's from his living in the desert for a year without speaking. He's gravelly from disuse.

 

[Amaris]

Artificially pitched down in post production because Stuart Baird thought that with 11 seasons of Worf appearances, he didn't seem "alien" enough.

Is there a source for that claim?

Count is being sarcastic (), but yes, the voice was pitch-altered because Baird wanted to emphasize Worf being an alien. Which, as Count suggests, is a weird thing to do after 11 years of TV adventures where Worf was already considered sufficiently alien without voice alteration.

We should count our lucky stars that Baird didn't pitch alter all Geordi's dialogue too (his having mistaken the character for being an alien -- yes, really. )

Now I want to hear Geordi with Morgan Freeman's voice.

 

[Mudd]

Spock's voice is lower in ST:TMP than in the series.

In universe, that's from his living in the desert for a year without speaking. He's gravelly from disuse.

IRL, ten more years of booze and cigarettes.

 

[FormerLurker]

I don't know about the cigarettes. He was already sucking lollipops during TOS.