Doing a television series, the producers naturally want to get her into a more conventional appearence and situations as much as possible.
Wonder Woman headed to the small screen
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Well, it's not like Diana wore her superhero costume all the time in the comics. I mean, I'm talking about portraying Diana as a diplomat and educator. She could easily be shown wearing "conventional" outfits when she's at the embassy or meeting with government officials or just going out with friends, as she does in the comics. She could save the costume for when she goes into action, and maybe have a formal variant of it for public appearances and the like. It's not as if the cliched approach of making her a female Clark Kent is the only possible way to get her into normal clothes.
I'd be ever so happy if there was some sort of rational explanation for wearing anything remotely resembling a "costume". That is, it'd be nice if the costume was actually battle gear put on in preparation for, you know, going into battle. Surprise attacks would be fought in whatever she was wearing at the time. (nothing is more annoying than a superhero either pausing to change in the midst of an attack, or the attack conveniently ripping off all outer clothing to reveal the costume beneath). If she is portrayed as an ambassador, then either normal Western styles or formal Themysciran styles, as occasions warrant. But I think the age of superheroes donning impractical colorful costumes for no other reason than they have always done so should be long gone.
No, I think if we see WW we have to see Diana, apart from the hard core fans most people will expect to see that. Also it makes her more human and relatable for most people (unlike Batman or Superman, Diana Prince has no powers in her disguise, one of the reasons I'd like her rather then WW to solve the case for once).
Again the costume is integral and the casual viewer will expect some cheesecake, WW was the one show my dad and big brother were happy to watch with me when I was a kid
Again the costume is integral and the casual viewer will expect some cheesecake, WW was the one show my dad and big brother were happy to watch with me when I was a kid
Maybe the TV version of Diana Prince had no powers in her disguise, but that was never an aspect of the comics character until 2005. Prior to that, the only time she was powerless was in the Diana Prince, The New Wonder Woman era starting in the late '60s, where she gave up her powers and costume completely for several years and became an Emma Peel-type undercover agent.
And I don't think the mass audience would "expect" anything. Most of them would have only the vaguest awareness of Wonder Woman, and all they'd care about was whether this brand-new show was entertaining or not. Besides, you'd think audiences would "expect" Clark Kent to wear glasses and have a blue and red suit under his street clothes, but that didn't stop Smallville from successfully taking a different tack.
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Even Christopher Reeve said Tom Welling was playing the Jeff East character...that Clark Kent and not the Superman/Clark Kent he played. And the producers Al & Miles said they weren't doing Superboy...so that is what we got with Smallville. It isn't something revolutionary...it is the story of young Clark Kent before becomes Superman. Even when the producers say they are doing Superman without the suit...that isn't exactly true...because he isn't Superman/Kal El...he is Clark Kent not knowing who he really is and what he will become. This has changed over the 10 seasons...but doing Wonder Woman with out the costume wouldn't work because it isn't the same thing...IMHO.
That touched by an angel girl already played Queen of the Amazons in a Hercules two parter.
Wonder Woman's a ninety pound gorilla.
She can wear what she wants because she can throw tanks into orbit.
I'd like to see them hit religion in the face.
What with since that her gods are "real" and that she can probably prove it.
Wonder Woman's a ninety pound gorilla.
She can wear what she wants because she can throw tanks into orbit.
I'd like to see them hit religion in the face.
What with since that her gods are "real" and that she can probably prove it.
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There are other series that mix mythological Gods and the Judeo-Christian God, including the comics.
Hal Jordan created the DCU. It happened in Zero Hour and was fore shadowed 15 years earlier in Crisis, and lex Luthor mentioned "the Big hand" theory not knowing that it was Jordan the whole time, to Niel Gaimen's Death last week, who was just shooting the breeze with the worlds greatest criminal genius.
I used to love it when Michael Landon would to reveal he was an angel on Highway to heaven, and then the other guy would say, no, I'm not an Angel, I'm just an exCop.
I used to love it when Michael Landon would to reveal he was an angel on Highway to heaven, and then the other guy would say, no, I'm not an Angel, I'm just an exCop.
Making her Princess Diana instead of Diana Prince could mistake her for the Prince Charles Princess of the same name,but bringing her as an actual representative of Themyscira that operates as a super hero in public could make it Smallville without Clark Kent.
I could watch that,and have maybe an History piece toward the end of the episode just like Voyagers.
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I could watch that,and have maybe an History piece toward the end of the episode just like Voyagers.
That's my opinion
Signed
Buck Rogers
It should be pointed out that the "Smallville solution" is to dump the Wonder Woman character, not Dianna Prince.
The big hand appeared quite a few years before Crisis on IE if I remember correctly.
http://www.comicvine.com/krona/29-27246/
But, other than that, I don't really understand the point of this post, sorry.
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You know they both died in the same week? Of course Wonder Woman came back and Princess Di didn't.
Speaking of dead people I'd want to resurrect for a Wonder Woman show...
Rick "Cocaine is a powerful drug" James.
Though, Chappelle as Steve Trevor?
Found a web site called 50 beautiful celebrities dressed up as wonder woman. It's just a bullshit collection of photoshopped pictures. If you're going to go to the go to the trouble of painting Laura Prepons underwear like a yankee flag, then you might as well make a site called 50 transvestite celebrities dressed as Wonder Woman.
Dom Deluise anyone?
Hulk Hogan?
Mickie Rouke?
That's how Superman fans (and actors) see Smallville, sure. But don't make the mistake of assuming that what fans know about a franchise is the same as what the general public knows. I've heard of people who watched Smallville and never even realized that it had anything to do with Superman, who were surprised when they were told that it did. The whole point of making the show the way it was done was specifically to make it accessible to people who weren't Superman fans. Because no fanbase is large enough to make a show or movie successful by itself. You need to draw in people who don't have any prior knowledge of the concept but would still be interested in watching the show just as a self-contained entity in its own right.
The only people who'd "expect" Wonder Woman to take on a secret identity of Diana Prince are people who were fans of the 1970s show, the pre-1980s comics, or the post-2005 comics. And that's bound to be a very small percentage of the overall television audience. They won't be the target. The target will be a general audience, plenty of whom will have heard of Wonder Woman but wouldn't know Diana Prince from Sue Storm. People who are watching the show because they like one of the actors or because they heard good buzz or because it's on after a show they already watch.
It's weird. So many people complain about all the TV shows that aren't faithful to the concepts they're based on, and then turn around and assume that everyone who watches a show is familiar with those concepts and so any new show will have to be faithful to them. It shouldn't be that hard to figure out that the whole reason shows get changed from what they're based on is that they're aimed at a broader audience who wouldn't know the difference.
First of all, I think it's pretty easy to tell the difference. And they don't have to use the title all the time; they can just call her "Diana" most of the time, as Justice League did.
Second, Xena had a recurring character named Princess Diana while the real Princess Diana was still alive, and that didn't cause any problems.
Third, nobody would be "making her" Princess Diana. She has always been Princess Diana of Paradise Island/Themyscira, ever since she was created in 1940. Diana Prince is an assumed name.
How is that anything like Smallville? Heck, it's the exact opposite of Smallville, because it would feature a hero who's totally open about her identity, who's a prominent public figure and celebrity even when she's not in costume. That's been an important part of Wonder Woman's character ever since the George Perez reinvention in the '80s, and I think it would be a nice change of pace from the tired old dual identity formula.
The "big hand" appeared in the story which introduced Krona, in 1965. At the time the intention seemed to be to pretty transparently suggest that this was the hand of God and that Krona's experiment failed and he was punished for his hubris in trying to see God's creation of the Universe itself.
I recall that Green Lantern: Ganthet's Tale by John Byrne and Larry Niven retconned the big hand as a myth, an illusion created by the Guardians to conceal a more scandalous truth about their origins. Has that retcon been retconned in turn back to the original version?
After he had destroyed the Universe, Paralax is in a bubble with his mates from the JLA claiming that the only way to make things right is to recreate the multiverse and make a world for all of them where their lives and perfect and happy, hell even a world for Batman where his parents never died (and so on), so Jordan starts to rebuild reality in his image shuffling all the universe in one giant hand, when Olver Queen shoots his buddy through the heart with a green arrow interrupting genesis II because he's gone bad and has to be put down.
That was ten, maybe 15 years ago.
I loved Ganthets Tale, but I remember bugger all about it.
I'm not sure if it's been said outright, but it's kind of obvious that during the Zero issue of Zero Hour, Jordan was able to make 52 universes before he finally SEEMED to die from his wound even though he was back a month or two later and died defeating the sun eater redeeming himself enough to be cursed with he job of the Spectre. that's how big a deush Jordan was, he had to work it with Vaseline on his teeth and jazz fingers just be cursed by God.
That was ten, maybe 15 years ago.
I loved Ganthets Tale, but I remember bugger all about it.
I'm not sure if it's been said outright, but it's kind of obvious that during the Zero issue of Zero Hour, Jordan was able to make 52 universes before he finally SEEMED to die from his wound even though he was back a month or two later and died defeating the sun eater redeeming himself enough to be cursed with he job of the Spectre. that's how big a deush Jordan was, he had to work it with Vaseline on his teeth and jazz fingers just be cursed by God.
Right, this was originally though what Krona did in the issue mentioned about. In his attempts to discover creation he instead mistakenly created the antimatter universe and multiverse.
Christopher was asking for updates since he read comics in the olden days and we already had a glancing blow against what Krona did in said olden days.
What I really should have mentioned was how Superboy Prime in Infinite Crisis (almost 5 years ago.)was punching at the dimensional membrain barrier between the pocket reality he left for after the first Crisis and Earth One fracturing reality creating 52 distortions which became shadow universes one on top of the other.
But it's Hiesenberg. The act of Observation causes change, and the act of punching even more so.
Just ridiculous.
But I saw OH MY GOD IT WAS SUPERMAN... I saw Scott Pigram vs the Word the other day and Brandon Routh was playing a character so powerful that he punched the highlights out of this managa teen school uniform jailbait girls hair... If Brandon Routh can punch the highlights out of a girls hair now, then back when he was a lad, it would be childs play (pun intended) for the boy of steel to thump reality so hard that it would have caused universal mitosis.
What I really should have mentioned was how Superboy Prime in Infinite Crisis (almost 5 years ago.)was punching at the dimensional membrain barrier between the pocket reality he left for after the first Crisis and Earth One fracturing reality creating 52 distortions which became shadow universes one on top of the other.
But it's Hiesenberg. The act of Observation causes change, and the act of punching even more so.
Just ridiculous.
But I saw OH MY GOD IT WAS SUPERMAN... I saw Scott Pigram vs the Word the other day and Brandon Routh was playing a character so powerful that he punched the highlights out of this managa teen school uniform jailbait girls hair... If Brandon Routh can punch the highlights out of a girls hair now, then back when he was a lad, it would be childs play (pun intended) for the boy of steel to thump reality so hard that it would have caused universal mitosis.