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How do you rate Wonder Man?


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Bankrupted, dis-credited and cancelled by Tony Stark, failed "industrialist-billionaire-futruist" Simon Williams turns to the evil Baron Zemo to avenge his total disgrace, with nazi super science, transforming the slumdog magnate into a flawed living weapon powerful enough to kill Thor in a fair fight, although shortening his life expectancy to less than a day. At the 11th hour realizing the error of his ways, his total insanity, in his last seconds alive, Simon turns on Zemo, redeeming himself and saving the Avengers from being sent to the knackers yard. Huzzah!

Maybe Wonder Man the TV Show will make more sense if I watch Midnight Cowboy?
 
Bankrupted, dis-credited and cancelled by Tony Stark, failed "industrialist-billionaire-futruist" Simon Williams turns to the evil Baron Zemo to avenge his total disgrace, with nazi super science, transforming the slumdog magnate into a flawed living weapon powerful enough to kill Thor in a fair fight, although shortening his life expectancy to less than a day. At the 11th hour realizing the error of his ways, his total insanity, in his last seconds alive, Simon turns on Zemo, redeeming himself and saving the Avengers from being sent to the knackers yard. Huzzah!

Maybe Wonder Man the TV Show will make more sense if I watch Midnight Cowboy?
Just watch the show and forget the comics,
 
Just watch the show and forget the comics,

The final nail in the coffin?

Simon Williams can't fly.

Okay, eventually he can fly, but that's after he dies and becomes an ion cloud ghost who lives inside the Scarlet Witch's body, which could not have been more psychosexually creepy.

They even went so far as to give Wonder Man from the fake 80s movie a rocket pack, so someone knew, unless the kids from the prop department weren't ever given fill scripts, to note the paradox.
 
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The final nail in the coffin?

Simon Williams can't fly.

Okay, eventually he can fly, but that's after he dies and becomes an ion cloud ghost who lives inside the Scarlet Witch's body, which could not have been more psychosexually creepy.

They even went so far as to give Wonder Man from the fake 80s movie a rocket pack, so someone knew, unless the kids from the prop department weren't ever given fill scripts, to note the paradox.
Just forget the comics and watch the show.
 
Just forget the comics and watch the show.

But he's still going to marry the Scarlet Witch, right?

He's a fugative, she's a fugative, they meet up in Zihuatanejo, and have a beer together?

Damage Control had a Magic Prison to full up, so Simon must be a Magical being if they had any hope of making their quota for dispensing with mystical threats? .

Unless he's a mutant?

So, collared and tattooed they have a concentration camp love story in the days of future past timeline?

Of course if Wanda is tapped, then so is her dad and then we get a crazy drug/alcohol 80s tall tale from Trevor about his sexual misadventures with Magneto?
 
But he's still going to marry the Scarlet Witch, right?

He's a fugative, she's a fugative, they meet up in Zihuatanejo, and have a beer together?

Damage Control had a Magic Prison to full up, so Simon must be a Magical being if they had any hope of making their quota for dispensing with mystical threats? .

Unless he's a mutant?

So, collared and tattooed they have a concentration camp love story in the days of future past timeline?

Of course if Wanda is tapped, then so is her dad and then we get a crazy drug/alcohol 80s tall tale from Trevor about his sexual misadventures with Magneto?
He will call Vision his brother and really piss off Eric
 
ICE = Damage Control.

With the current unpopularity, is Marvel going to stop doing that, but if ICE folds, will Damage Control shutter up as well?
 
Well, they finally did. They finally did one of those shows without a big CGI action/fight scene in the finale (maybe Agatha did too as I think its finale was the flashback episode, I can't remember.) In fact there was only one fight scene in the whole season, but it was very short and the super-powered character clearly didn't enjoy beating up the thugs and held back a lot so he wouldn't hurt them. It was very fitting that Simon's first real act of heroism was breaking out Trevor, because the show was about the relationship between these two charaters more than being a super hero origin and even more than being about Hollywood.

I was happy Trevor was more serious here (while still being funny) as he couldn't have been completely comedy all the time in a show where he's basically the co lead. Trevor spends the whole season trying to get away from being the Mandarin, but he is continuously recognised as such. He finally gets a huge movie role, is about to reinvent himself...and he gives it all up for Simon by going back to his lowest moment and becoming the Mandarin again. It's very sweet and I love that it's canon in the MCU that Trevor is actually a great actor as I loved seeing one more Mandarin video from him (apparently he's also a great editor as he's somehow able to put that video together by himself? Maybe don't think about that part.)

I can see why they released the whole season at once. Simon is very guarded at the start and it maybe takes a while to get to really like him. If they just released even the first two episodes in the first week I could see people not really feeling that compelled to watch it again a week later. But you understand why he's the way he is as the show goes on and he loosens up a lot once he gets the big movie role and thanks to his relationship with Trevor. The show really comes together to a very satisfying whole. I liked the Doorman standalone episode too, but it was a bit predictable how things were going to go once he got famous.

I do wonder if Damage Control have enough on Simon now to arrest him, or if he'd be able to continue as an actor while getting more involved in super heroics as a secret identity. Hopefully we actually see the character again and find out.
 
Well, Roxxon -- which was Marvel's default evil oil corporation back in the day -- is still going strong, and even makes a cameo in Wonder Man.
Yup.
I remember 'The Sepent Crown Affair' from Marvel's 'Avengers' and 'Two-In-One' back in the day where was Roxxon manipulating events from behind the scenes.
 
If Simon can break the sound barrier, like a human cannon ball, how did he lose a foot race with a two stroke motorcycle?

Ditto for the pilot, where he's rushing against all odds to make it to that audition?

I know we just got through 9 seasons of the flash, but Barry is late on purpose as a component of his secret identity.
 
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If Simon can break the sound barrier, like a human cannon ball, how did he lose foot race with a two stroke motorcycle?

Ditto for the pilot, where he's rushing against all odds to make it to that audition?

I know we just got through 9 seasons of the flash, but Barry is late on purpose as a component of his secret identity.
He got better at using his powers. Which are pretty uncontrolled through out most of the show.
 
I'm done too and i liked it a lot. It's an extremely slow burn show that without the superhero/superpower element would have worked equally well ( just substitute his secret with a "normal" career ruining secret, whatever that may have been).

The key was how well both leads played off each other and played their characters, they really found pair for this show and i loved the open ended sequel ending, so if they decide to do a 2nd season i will be there. The twist in the season finale was great and i guess he must have trained in the meantime to control his powers, because how he did it was slick as hell.

This is a complete 180 from the usual Marvel style and quite frankly i didn't think Marvel had it in them. I'm too lazy if this show is the product of the rather recent course change Marvel did to get back on track or if this show was written before and Marvel just had the balls to try a different approach. Either way it worked and i'd love to see more projects lie these that feel more personal and not world altering, worldwide news making superhero thing Marvel is famous for.
 
At the end I thought he was going to overshoot the the ceiling and crash into Attilian.

Dude we get it, you didn't like the show because it deviated too much from the comics. Man, the MCU is nothing but a deviation from the comics so why are you getting all worked up?
 
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