Why is it bad? We have Women's rights? Just asking...
Why can't we just have human rights since we are all human?
Woman in NYC cat call video is suing..
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Why is it bad? We have Women's rights? Just asking...
Why can't we just have human rights since we are all human?
^ It's redundant to point out concepts like "men's rights," because we - as men - already have them. Our rights haven't been under threat.
Women, on the other hand, have had to suffer the loss of their rights and privileges many times. Thus it's entirely proper for women to assert their rights, because they've lost them before - and may lose them again, if we're not careful.
Women, on the other hand, have had to suffer the loss of their rights and privileges many times. Thus it's entirely proper for women to assert their rights, because they've lost them before - and may lose them again, if we're not careful.
^^ The difference, of course, is the current systemic advantages of being male, as opposed to female - which is only reinforced by the cat call video that is the subject of this thread. For example, I've spent hundreds of hours walking through NYC, and I've received, to date, zero cat calls, despite dozens of men and women stopping me to talk about the photos I was taking. I have, however, witnessed many examples of women I have been walking near being cat called, then insulted and harassed when they chose to ignore the inappropriate attention.
And that only scratches the surface of the inequities between being male and female. Seems to me, in our current society, we need to focus on genuine equality of rights (human rights, as you put it) - which, just so happens to be the definition of feminism.
And that only scratches the surface of the inequities between being male and female. Seems to me, in our current society, we need to focus on genuine equality of rights (human rights, as you put it) - which, just so happens to be the definition of feminism.
"Women's Rights" refer to the fight for equal rights with men: fighting for rights men already have. The Men's Rights Activist movement is a thinly veiled misogynistic boy's club that exists to discredit and misrepresent feminism and distract or diminish the significance of sexism and issues faced by women in what is still a patriarchic society. Asking "Why can't we have Men's Rights" is much like asking, "Why can't we fight for White Rights?"
The really sad thing is that feminism is about men's rights: when you promote the removal of gender stereotypes and constraints it automatically goes both ways.
Have some literature on the subject. Via Cracked. But hey, cheap shots from a comedy website are as much as MRAs deserve.
Fairness to Cracked, they've been doing a lot lately to try and expose people to others' lives and how they live.
I'm so tired of men claiming it's sooooo hard to act in an appropriate manner around women or to approach them. Do they find it really that hard to not act like a sexist jerk?
Mindblowing.
Mindblowing.
It's just petulance. "If I have to think about what I say well then.. I'm not saying anything at all!"
It is a case of men not taking responsibility for their behavior and men not changing the way they think so they blame women for the way they think or society or whatever. Treat people the way you want to be treated and don't assume the worse about every situation. 
If you're looking for a relationship a bar or club is the worse place to look for one. Most of the people Ive met there are judgemental and have their guards up. Its just not worth the time unless you enjoy playing the game.Usually the most fulfilling relationships come from meetings at private gatherings where everyone has a common interest eg: church group,political groups,gaming group etc. etc. The setting is much nicer and conversation starting is easier. Much better than wasting hours of your time with someone who could turn out being someone you have nothing in common with except you like the way she looks.
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It depends on the person of course, but this is very much true for me. Actually, the context in which I have the easiest time hooking up is scientific conferences - which sucks, as the people I meet there tend to live halfway across the planet.
Very much this. I find it mind-blowing when people talk about social awkwardness and being perceived as a sexist ass as if there was a fuzzy line between those two things. Uh, no, if you're socially awkward, people will just perceive you as .. socially awkward?
Oh, brother. You know what's funny? I used to be one of those "nervous guys." As I have become more aware of casual (and not so casual) sexism and misogyny, I've become less nervous about interacting with women, because I feel I have a much better understanding of where women are coming from as far as romantic/sexual interactions go. It's as if learning about stuff demystifies it and builds one's confidence. Imagine!
As a general rule, you probably shouldn't publicly approach women you don't know in order to make romantic/sexual overtures. What, are you gonna sidle up to a lady standing next to a fountain and be like, "hey, baby"?
As Locutus said: there are appropriate times and places. "A woman I don't know is visible to me in public" is probably not one of them, though.
It's tuff being a man in 2015.
I'll be damned, I agree with an ichab post!
I used to say dating sites are a great way to meet people, but Match.com owns everything except eHarmony now, and Match.com's sites are all total garbage.
I hear very mixed things about Tinder.
As you said, people are probably best off going to group activities where they share common interests. At least then you know a person you might be interested in has something in common with you.
No, it's actually you who's claiming that men act like sexist jerks.
But in reality there really aren't any major issues with people interacting, or finding relationships, or acting appropriately in public, bars, or elsewhere.
Oh yeah, I forgot to comment on the original topic of the thread.
I do think it's kinda shitty that, if you're trying to bring attention to ways in which women are treated poorly, you then treat the (female) star of your video poorly. Derp. A percentage of ad revenue would be sensible and fair.
There are some problems with the video, in any case.
I do think it's kinda shitty that, if you're trying to bring attention to ways in which women are treated poorly, you then treat the (female) star of your video poorly. Derp. A percentage of ad revenue would be sensible and fair.
There are some problems with the video, in any case.
Why? This is money they could use to better highlight the problem they want to get rid of.
What are you even talking about?
Very few men act like sexist jerks so apparently most men find it really easy to not act like sexist jerks.
It's just that the minority of sexist jerks is still very annoying and an everyday reminder that sexism still is a problem.
So you're saying "in reality" there is no major issue with sexism in public. It's all just in the women's heads.
Dude, that's so patronizing, it's unreal. Stop marginalizing the very real experiences women make. Most men understand this even without having lived a woman's life.
It's bloody bizarre when men tell women: "SEXISM IS NO MAJOR ISSUE IN SOCIAL LIFE".
It's a minority of sexist jerks that is still big enough to turn this into an important issue and who are you to tell women that it isn't?
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