WNMHGB - first time viewing

[Spocks Beard]

I've just watched on Sci Fi in the UK the episode 'where no man has gone before.' I am a trek fan but more of the newer series truth be known so I was surprised to notice the obvious diffrences to the rest of TOS.

I had never seen this ep before so I take it it was the first ep after the series was given the go ahead? Also can anyone enlighten me as to how the changes to the crew we now know so well came about? Also the lack of the voice over in the opening sequence surprised me.

Oh and hi by the way

 

[gastrof]

Actually, "Where No Man..." was done BEFORE the show got a green light.

Th earlier pilot with Jeff Hunter as Captain Pike had been rejected, but the "suits" did something unheard of in TV at the time... They said "Do another one. Here are some changes we'd like to see..."

By the time Gene could get another pilot going, he ended up with Shatner as Kirk, and the rest is history. That second pilot sold the show, and the first regular episode filmed was, if memory serves, "The Corbomite Maneuver". (I'd have to check to make sure.)

In the earliest episode showing her, Uhura wore gold rather than red, and Spock had a larger black collar than anyone else at first.

Yes, the Kirk pilot lacked his voice-over. (There'd been none by Hunter in the earlier pilot either.) On the remastered version, for some reason they opted to INSERT Shatner's voice-over when re-doing the opening credits. Personally, I feel they spoiled something special about it by doing that.

Anyway...

That's all I can think to tell you.

 

[Spocks Beard]

Thats brilliant thanks . Thought it looked a bit 'pilot' ish. Glad they got DeForest in to play the Doc.....

 

[Outpost4]

Welcome to the forum, Spocks Beard, along with AWV-0002 and hafabee, from this thread. Fresh folks interested in Star Trek are always welcome.

A lot of us here thing Where No Man Has Gone Before is one of the best Star Trek episodes. It's a credit to Shatner and Roddenberry how on-the-mark Kirk is in his first outing. Nimoy's Spock is still maturing, but then the Spock character changed a lot from The Cage and would continue to be refined over the next couple of episodes. Still, so much was right on the mark immediately, including the aura of the Enterprise, the power of the unknown and the visual and auditory effects. Star Trek feels right in WNMHGB.

 

[Spocks Beard]

Thanks. I am a big fan but reading through some of the threads here it seems some folk are perhaps a little more into Trek than me

 

[Outpost4]

Trekkies? Obsessed?

I never knew...

 

[JNG]

I just recently saw the discarded voice-over for the different opening sequence that Shatner recorded for this episode. Anyone know what I'm talking about or have the exact words? I'll dig up the YouTube link if some well-informed person doesn't come out of the woodwork and beat me to the punch with a much better resource (as almost always happens...that's why I like this place )

 

[Sir Rhosis]

My synopsis of the final script has the entire opening monologue as written. I've never sat down to compare the script to the actual discarded voice over.

First link in my sig.

Sir Rhosis

 

[Kryton]

I'm a big fan of the group Spock's Beard. Welcome.

 

[Captain Robert April]

Here it is: STAR TREK 2nd PILOT Deleted Scenes

 

[Kryton]

I've had a copy (of a copy of a copy) of the entire episode since the late '80s...I was really hoping P'mount would add it to the DVD release (well, ONE of the several anyway) but they never have. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the alternate music cues is why they probably never will.

 

[DeafPoet]

Here it is: STAR TREK 2nd PILOT Deleted Scenes

It's always weird seeing a ton of extras wandering the corridors. Almost prefer the more sparse depictions of the rest of the series.

 

[dillon3001]

WNMHBG is an excellent episode. Thanks to Captain April for that youtube clip, fantastic!

 

[ClayinCA]

I've had a copy (of a copy of a copy) of the entire episode since the late '80s...I was really hoping P'mount would add it to the DVD release (well, ONE of the several anyway) but they never have. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the alternate music cues is why they probably never will.

I also wonder if maybe they don't have the elements in good enough condition, and that's what's stopping them. I don't think there are that many prints left of the "other" version of the episode.

 

[Kryton]

Yeah but if they went to the trouble to release a half-color/half-black & white version of The Cage, I would think even a crappy print of "Star Trek Pilot #2" would be a worthwhile extra to have on a DVD release, just 'cause.

I wonder if I can find the copy I digitized to SVCD and posted on Usenet many many years ago? I don't remember seeing that disc anytime recently. Possibly in a box or some other sort of victim of having moved since then.

 

[Mallory]

Welcome to the board Spocks Beard, I hope you enjoy your time here with us.

 

[Captain Robert April]

Odds are, it's because the only uncirculated copy is currently in the Smithsonian, and God only knows what condition it's in.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

It's always weird seeing a ton of extras wandering the corridors. Almost prefer the more sparse depictions of the rest of the series.

I'm the opposite; I prefer the crowded ship because it gives the impression that there are 430 souls on board.

Odds are, it's because the only uncirculated copy is currently in the Smithsonian, and God only knows what condition it's in.

I also believe that the unaltered, unaired WNMHGB is also at the Museum of Radio and Television.

EDIT -- Better copy of "work print":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QHUqO_dZn8