Will you go see the new Quentin Tarantino film?

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  1. JirinPanthosa

    JirinPanthosa Vice Admiral Admiral

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    They did that on SNL when Christopher Waltz hosted.
     
  2. Mojochi

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    Good lord. I did not know that... & now I want my 2 and a half minutes back. Is there no laugh that I could be having that they can't ruin? Hell, my version could probably be funnier lol
     
  3. Haggis and tatties

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    Nope, guy makes my skin crawl period.
     
  4. Serveaux

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    No.
     
  5. Kai "the spy"

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    Unlikely. It was one of the best things SNL has done in the past decade.
     
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  6. Serveaux

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  7. Mojochi

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    After digesting it a bit more, I think I can see where the criticism is coming from, not that it's all that egregious, for a silly fantasy flick imho. We can cut it a little bit of a break. TBH, the dude's not making high art

    So, it's not really that she's being portrayed as "Attractive", or that she's not as main a character as the men. It's that the whole point of her character is to be the macguffin. Basically, there is no worse objectification that you can do in drama, than to make a human being the plot object & nothing else, a real life human woman, who was tragically murdered, no less.

    Ultimately, this movie is 50% love letter/lampoon of 60s Hollywood. It's no wonder he wanted Burt Reynolds in it. It's his Hollywood. 25% of the movie is a commentary on/capitalizing of the Manson family stigma, & 25% of the movie's screen time is fetishizing Sharon Tate, with one of modern Hollywood's hottest.

    The movie treats Sharon Tate as a fetish & the impetus of her real life murder as a macguffin. The real hilarity of the outrage is that I've actually seen as much objection to how Bruce Lee is portrayed, but even those criticisms are screwy imho, because the scene in which he is lampooned is actually a dream sequence, & not to be taken as an actual event in the film. Of course the character imagining Bruce might think he's like that, even if he isn't & we all know it, especially Kung-Fu movie buff Tarantino.

    It's just a purposefully silly movie, & it's not one of his best imho. I could enjoy it for what it was, but it probably ranks near the bottom of his 9

    Django Unchained (I'll give it 8.5 out of 10)
    Pulp Fiction (8.4)
    Kill Bill (8.0)
    Reservoir Dogs (7.99999)
    Inglorious Basterds (7.0)
    Hateful Eight (6.999999)
    Jackie Brown (6.7)
    Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (6.5)
    Death Proof (4 stars)
     
  8. tomalak301

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    I saw the film today and it felt like a 3 hour long film. Production and costume wise, it was really well put together. As a narrative, it was merely decent, but probably QT's worst film I have seen.
     
  9. Mojochi

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    Have you seen Death Proof? It's basically snuff porn & bad acting lol
     
  10. tomalak301

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    I have not. The only QT films I've actually seen were:

    Reservoir Dogs
    Pulp Fiction
    Inglorious Bastards (My favorite of his films)
    Django Unchained
    Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
     
  11. Mojochi

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    You'd probably like Kill Bill
     
  12. ralfy

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    As long as it's a Star Trek movie and he makes it as "un-politically correct" as possible.
     
  13. Serveaux

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    I was surprised that it was about two and a half hours long; it felt while watching it like a short movie.
     
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  14. MakeshiftPython

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    So, the Star Trek equivalent of Birth of a Nation...?
     
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    I finally saw it yesterday. It seemed longer than it was....three-and-a-half to me, but that's not unusual for Tarantino films. The first half went down easier for me. When Pitt and DiCap split up, I wanted to see more Pitt than I got. Even when the film reached August of 1969, I assumed we had five minutes more max.

    We have the same pacing as DEATH PROOF, with a very similar approach in saving the wildest moments until the very end. And there is a tactical ending similarity to INGLORIOUS which is also an inverse of sorts.

    Enjoyed the hell out of the first half, laughed repeatedly at the ending 15 minutes, and waited during the rest of it. If you're watching Tarantino, you will wait at some point. It's all in the payoff. Loved the finish.

    Bruce Dern took over for Burt Reynolds after he died, and several actors were obliterated from the final cut......including James Marsden, who was almost Burt Reynolds. Have to confess I didn't notice Luke Perry specifically.....or Brenda Vaccaro for that matter. Or Clu Gulagher as the book man. He was exceptionally smartass in THE KILLERS with Lee Marvin.
     
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    That would've been even better than what we got. I'm sure I'm not alone in saying I always wanted five minutes alone with Manson. And not for sexual reasons.

    HBO buffs may remember NOT NECESSARILY THE NEWS's CHRIST II: THE SECOND COMING with a fully-armed Stallone lookalike in 1985 shooting up the locale. Whether SNL remembers it is debatable.
     
  17. Serveaux

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    Where was Vaccaro.
     
  18. Serveaux

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    I may like this one better than Pulp Fiction.
     
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    Who honestly thinks Paramount will release a rated R Star Trek movie?
     
  20. Serveaux

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    The same sadly hopeful folks, I suppose, who still think of Star Trek as somehow significant popular art rather than disposable popcorn junk entertainment.
     
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