Will they go back to primeTrek after nuTrek finishes?.

[Greg Cox]

The briefing room was where the action was in TOS. Spock smacked Kirk clear across the table in "The Naked Time." In "Space Seed," Khan attempted to execute Kirk while his crew watched in horror. Not to mention that Sarek and Gav mixed it up in "Journey to Babel."

The 23rd century. Good times.

Well said. That's what I want to see in the NuTrek movies. The briefing scene were always so cool in TOS but seemed kind of neutered in TNG.

That's because Kirk and Co. were allowed to be more opinionated and argumentative and emotional. Heck, you could always count on McCoy to add some drama and conflict to proceedings:

"Good God, man, are you out of your Vulcan mind?!""

By contrast,TNG briefings tended to be more business-like, with seasoned professional calmly discussing the crisis at hand and the options available to them . . . .

Laudable in real life, I suppose, but not exactly gripping television.

 

[TRON JA307020]

I'll admit that I'd be game for a briefing room knock down fight between Kirk and Spock. "The Naked Time" is one of my favorite episodes.

Excellent episode. Would have like to see more of the Kevin Riley character. He would have made a fine addition to the main cast. They should bring him to NuTrek.Hmmm I need to revisit that episode. I haven't seen it in a long time.

 

[JWPlatt]

Yes, we can all watch it...

ONE. MORE. TIME!!

 

[eyeresist]

Why have a briefing room when everyone in the briefing are always on the bridge?

"Sir, a Warbird is decloaking!"

"Very well. To the briefing room to go over the minutes from this morning's briefing. We'll then get to the matter at hand with an appropriate quorum."

I like NEM, but that was ridiculous.

Re briefing room scenes, I'll say again that DS9 made them work.

 

[Trekkin]

Didn't the guy who played Riley leave to become a hippy?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Didn't the guy who played Riley leave to become a hippy?

He was a guest star, not a regular. The only reason Riley appeared twice was they changed the name of the character when Bruce Hyde was cast for "The Conscience of the King",

 

[Trekkin]

Huh. I don't know where I heard the hippy thing from.

 

[Greg Cox]

Didn't the guy who played Riley leave to become a hippy?

He was a guest star, not a regular. The only reason Riley appeared twice was they changed the name of the character when Bruce Hyde was cast for "The Conscience of the King",

Exactly. Riley was never intended to be a recurring character. Somebody just remembered to use the same name the second time Hyde was cast as a crewman.

 

[GNDN18]

The Life and Times of Bruce Hyde was the topic of an earlier thread in another forum. No dance tonight, but there will be ice cream served in the bowling alley.

 

[Makarov]

TNG briefing room scenes were usually interesting, I don't always need a fist fight to be entertained by a story. It's not like they're much different from the multitude of scenes in the JJ movies where they stand on the bridge discussing their next move. Or even the scene where Kirk gets reprimanded by Pike in Into Darkness could have easily been a TNG briefing room scene. I don't get the hate on them.

 

[TRON JA307020]

TNG briefing room scenes were usually interesting, I don't always need a fist fight to be entertained by a story. It's not like they're much different from the multitude of scenes in the JJ movies where they stand on the bridge discussing their next move. Or even the scene where Kirk gets reprimanded by Pike in Into Darkness could have easily been a TNG briefing room scene. I don't get the hate on them.

Neither do I . I would like to see a classic style briefing room scene and actually in the briefing room not on the bridge. Sometimes the senior staff ahs to discuss things and not let every ensign or lower ranked individual know everything they say or do. Also a scene where there isn't so much shaky camera and lens flares would be nice. Just a nice slow sit down and discussion of what needs to be done. Im sure we will see something like that next.

P.S. I really want to see what the briefing room looks like also.

 

[urbandefault]

I'd like to see some of these people leave the bridge and hit the head. Maybe inside the ladies room, girl talk while they fix their makeup. Throw in a grunty fart in the background.

Seriously, the plot has to keep moving. A movie with a bunch of plot-halts so they can fanwank the talky meeting stuff would be well over 3 hours long. They're really pushing it now at 2.5 hours. I won't sit still for more than that, and I'd bet general audiences won't either.

The daytime drama yammering works on TV, not in movies.

 

[TRON JA307020]

I'd like to see some of these people leave the bridge and hit the head. Maybe inside the ladies room, girl talk while they fix their makeup. Throw in a grunty fart in the background.

Seriously, the plot has to keep moving. A movie with a bunch of plot-halts so they can fanwank the talky meeting stuff would be well over 3 hours long. They're really pushing it now at 2.5 hours. I won't sit still for more than that, and I'd bet general audiences won't either.

The daytime drama yammering works on TV, not in movies.

A 2-4 minute sequence wouldn't slow the movie down at all.

 

[Cyke101]

Throw in a grunty fart in the background.

the plot has to keep moving.

I'd love to see them take on this challenge.

 

[JWPlatt]

I won't sit still for more than that, and I'd bet general audiences won't either.

You're an anecdote, but "the audience" is not. Movies used to be far shorter and people said the said thing. "A freakin' hour!? Nobody will sit for that!" But they did. Years pass and Titanic comes along. Quite long. Three hours fourteen minutes. Record-breaking repeat business. It does have to be a good movie to stay that long, but it does work.

A 2-4 minute sequence wouldn't slow the movie down at all.

It will slow it down by two to four minutes. But I get it. There are things some fans like and want, and some of us wish movies weren't ruled by the "Save the Cat!" formula beat for beat; they all feel like the same predictable movie but with different settings and characters and you can't exactly put your finger on why it seems so familiar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blake_Snyder#Save_the_Cat.21_screenwriting_manual

"Star Trek: The Motion Picture" is widely teased for its infamous tour of the Enterprise exterior. I loved every second and wanted more. The ship is one of the characters and the camera made love to her. Sometimes there's a good excuse, it feels good, and damn the critics.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I won't sit still for more than that, and I'd bet general audiences won't either.

You're an anecdote, but "the audience" is not. Movies used to be far shorter and people said the said thing. "A freakin' hour!? Nobody will sit for that!" But they did. Years pass and Titanic comes along. Quite long. Three hours fourteen minutes. Record-breaking repeat business. It does have to be a good movie to stay that long, but it does work.

Huh? Gone With the Wind was over three hours. Other older films with long run times

Lawrence of Arabia

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World

The Godfather: Part II

Seven Samurai

Barry Lyndon

Judgment at Nuremberg

Exodus

Spartacus

The Deer Hunter

Its hardly a new thing.

 

[JWPlatt]

Yup. Titanic was a contemporary example, if that wasn't obvious enough. And road shows were longer, such as for MMMMW, though it had an intermission (with a police call soundtrack). And people can sit still for all those.

i.e., the briefing room isn't so bad; do something funny or interesting; slow down for a little character development and interaction. And for the people who hate briefing rooms, have Kirk hate them too, but somehow they all run into each other in front of one and they have to drag Kirk into it. Anti-briefing room humor.

 

[fireproof78]

Um, Ten Commandments from 1956 as well as Ben-Hur. That movie is nearly four hours long. Ben-Hur in 1959, 3 hours again. Granted, same director (Cecil B. DeMill) but long movies are hardly new concepts. They were certainly were not every day occurrence, and certainly more of a spectacle for the audience, but still existed.

Also, I don't think audiences are as resistant to longer works because stage plays can be quite long, as can radio dramas. Now, studios may be reluctant to spent the money, but that's a different story

 

[Kor]

I think that at the time of "Titanic", audiences were used to shorter movies because they were the trend. As long as we're stereotyping general audiences, I think most people tend to just watch what's current to their generation and not seek out older films.

I feel kind of ripped off if a movie is shorter. You can spend twelve bucks on a movie that lasts 1.5 hours, or you can spend twelve bucks on a movie that lasts 2.5 hours. Hmm, which is the better deal?

Kor

 

[TRON JA307020]

I won't sit still for more than that, and I'd bet general audiences won't either.

You're an anecdote, but "the audience" is not. Movies used to be far shorter and people said the said thing. "A freakin' hour!? Nobody will sit for that!" But they did. Years pass and Titanic comes along. Quite long. Three hours fourteen minutes. Record-breaking repeat business. It does have to be a good movie to stay that long, but it does work.

Huh? Gone With the Wind was over three hours. Other older films with long run times

Lawrence of Arabia

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World

The Godfather: Part II

Seven Samurai

Barry Lyndon

Judgment at Nuremberg

Exodus

Spartacus

The Deer Hunter

Its hardly a new thing.

Several silent movies were also over 2 hours.