Will they get number one right?

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Rebecca Romijn really isn't working for me right now. But, to be fair to her, they haven't given her much to do. Hopefully she rises to the occasion when its time for her big dramatic moment.

I liked Rebecca Romijn in "The Librarians" (which was a cheesy show, but I don't mind some cheese on occasion).

Her character in that show was a bit masculine, in as much as that she wasn't overtly feminine -- i.e., someone who didn't feel the feminine trappings were necessary. She was still very much a woman, but one who could hold her own and not need to be coddled or protected by a man.

In fact in that show, Romijn's character was the protector (the Guardian) of the Librarians -- the muscle/bodyguard so-to-speak -- and she was very capable in that job.

I think that's a pretty good basis for Number One (that is, a woman who could hold her own when doing her job, and isn't too worried about the need to be feminine) with a few tweeks here and there.

 

[Jedi_Master]

I thought An Obol for Charon was a "tacked together" episode in general. The story and the subplots were very interesting, but the story-telling was a bit messy. The pacing was odd and the different subplots were delivered in a jarring way (to borrow your word).

It was a great Trekky concept (very classic Star Trek), but poor execution from a production standpoint.

Number One's bit part of the episode was more of a symptom of that overall messy execution issue I had with the episode, so it wasn't something that I would necessarily single out as being poorly executed.

Meh. Discovery's stories by default jump around with as much subtlety as the spore drive. Once you get used to the pacing, it isn't jarring.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Meh. Discovery's stories by default jump around with as much subtlety as the spore drive. Once you get used to the pacing, it isn't jarring.

I'd rather a more organized pace in my TV shows, especially Star Trek.

It's my theory (part pure speculation and part wishful thinking) that Berg and Harberts were replaced as showrunners because their productions from a story-telling standpoint were messy. New Eden so far was the cleanest of all the episodes, although that too had some occasional messiness. Perhaps the fact that Jonathan Frakes directed it might have helped, being that he has experience in successfully telling Trek stories.

I suppose we'll find out soon (this next episode? but it might take a while) if a non-Berg and Harberts episode is any better.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Actually, Berg and Harberts were released for going substantially over budget for the season premier and being abusive to other members the writing staff.

At any rate, tonight's episode will be the last episode with their mark on it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ho...covery-showrunners-alex-kurtzman-take-1120416

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Actually, Berg and Harberts were released for going substantially over budget for the season premier and being abusive to other members the writing staff.

At any rate, tonight's episode will be the last episode with their mark on it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ho...covery-showrunners-alex-kurtzman-take-1120416

Well, whatever the reason, I hope a fringe benefit of their release will be tighter storytelling.

Like I said, I thing the stories have been great; very interesting and thoughtful plots. It's the execution of those plots that's been a little bothersome for me. An Obol for Charon tops that list in both repsects -- (1) maybe the most interesting story this season, and (2) the messiest storytelling overall (although the other episodes all had their "moments" of being messy.

Maybe they just need better directors. As I mentioned above, Frake's episode was the tightest one yet (albeit with some issues telling the "B-Story").

 

[Hythlodeus]

As I mentioned above, Frake's episode was the tightest one yet

Also the most cliché and boring

 

[eschaton]

Well, whatever the reason, I hope a fringe benefit of their release will be tighter storytelling.

Like I said, I thing the stories have been great; very interesting and thoughtful plots. It's the execution of those plots that's been a little bothersome for me. An Obol for Charon tops that list in both repsects -- (1) maybe the most interesting story this season, and (2) the messiest storytelling overall (although the other episodes all had their "moments" of being messy.

Maybe they just need better directors. As I mentioned above, Frake's episode was the tightest one yet (albeit with some issues telling the "B-Story").

In the first season, I thought Discovery suffered due to inexcusably bad writing.

Now the writing is fine - even great at times. But the production choices leave me scratching my head.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Also the most cliché and boring

Yeah, but the writing and directing might be two different things.

If Obol for Charon was tightened up, it could have been one of my favorite Star Treks episodes of all time, because the story writing was so interesting. However, it wasn't due its uneveness.

It's usually the "B-Story" than has been problematic. In the case of both "Charon" and "New Eden", the main story moved along nicely, but the subplots seemed to be thrown into the pacing of the main story willy nilly.