Will they ever bring back Legends?
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Meh. I'm not overly bothered by the bleeding crystals. It was an interesting bit of lore.
Jakku is something I would like to see more of and the Vader comics are the most popular so it's minorly irritating but not something unwelcome.
Jakku is something I would like to see more of and the Vader comics are the most popular so it's minorly irritating but not something unwelcome.
Well it's already been established that Jakku was once very important to force users (maybe the Sith, maybe the Jedi, maybe others; I don't recall that it was ever specified) which is indirectly why the final battle of the civil war was fought there. So yeah, I expect at some point there will be some prequel or pre-prequel material that goes into the how and the why of that.
And the "bleeding the crystals" thing is a great addition to the lore. It took what was a fairly flat concept (Sith home bake their laser sword crystals!) and replaced it with something more suitable to the subject matter (Sith murder Jedi, take their lightsaber crystal and forcibly enslave it to their will by pouring in all rage and hate.)
Oh and for those labouring under a misconception: TCW didn't reference EU material because the creatives felt bound by it, they did it selectively when it worked, they though it was cool, and/or when Katie Lucas *really* liked one of the Ventress comics. Most of the time though, they gave no fucks and did whatever.
And the "bleeding the crystals" thing is a great addition to the lore. It took what was a fairly flat concept (Sith home bake their laser sword crystals!) and replaced it with something more suitable to the subject matter (Sith murder Jedi, take their lightsaber crystal and forcibly enslave it to their will by pouring in all rage and hate.)
Oh and for those labouring under a misconception: TCW didn't reference EU material because the creatives felt bound by it, they did it selectively when it worked, they though it was cool, and/or when Katie Lucas *really* liked one of the Ventress comics. Most of the time though, they gave no fucks and did whatever.
Clone Wars was top tier canon as it was created by George Lucas.
And they ignored Legends stories a lot, so much in fact it made one author quit writing Star Wars novels because it contradicted her work.
Yes they did use some stuff from the EU, but they usually put their own twist on them.
I was under the impression that the novel CRUCIBLE served as that, as well as being a coda to THE FATE OF THE JEDI series. I haven't read it yet, so I don't know, is that not the case?
Even when they did adapt something from the EU it was totally different from what was actually in the books and comics. The CW Dathomir witches weren't running around on a jungle planet riding Rancors.
Themes? Ideas? In the EU?
John Jackson Miller did it.
Clone Wars was grandfathered into Legends and it's continuation is canon-on
Not going to happen (although if the new episodes probably won't touch on everything we've learned since the reboot).
Indeed, as did a few others. But that's besides the point since we're talking about the EU as a whole, not individual outliers.
Oh. Although, wasn't the EU made out of a lot of smaller pieces that did their own thing and weren't part of any larger master plan beyond being set in the same world?
If there is anything from the new canon in Clone Wars it will probably just be stuff Filoni had a hand in.
But I have feeling most of the continuation will be of stuff written for Clone Wars but never released.
Side note, the crystal bleeding first appeared in the 'Ahsoka' novel so it could have been Filoni's idea since the story came from his notes.
Yes, exactly as I said. What's your point?
I guess that, IMHO, saying the EU has no theme ignores that its a setting for underlying themes with the storytelling through different authors and media?
I'd much rather have stover or Luceno doing the EU finale than Troy denning.
No, I was actually asking. Is CRUCIBLE the final to the EU or not? I'd heard that it was, but this info comes from a fan who doesn't know any more that I do.
It ended up being so-yes that wasn't the original intention, denning actually had to change the ending to accommodate the buyout.
My point (which you're still apparently missing) was that the EU as a whole has no cohesive ideas and themes. That's not a bad thing per see, but it was a claim to the contrary that I was refuting.
We all caught up now?
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When they first announced they were turning the old EU into the Legacy thing I was hoping maybe they would still continue it as a separate universe/canon, but at this point I'd rather just see them focus on the new canon. I haven't read a lot of the later stuff, but it sounds like the Legacy EU was kind of a mess by the end, and the so far the new canon has been off to a great start, so I'd rather just see them focus all of their energy on developing it.
I did actually read it up until the end and it's very telling that all i can tell you about the last dozen or so is: "Han & Leia's granddaughter had a pet Nexu." I also vaguely recall a gratuitous torture scene in the last book and there was a thing where Ben Skywalker's Sith girlfriend (who they all knew was a Sith) turned out to be evil...What a twist!
Other than that, they really didn't leave much of an impression.
Yeah, it was. There were a couple of comic series set after (and a couple of novels published after it), but it was effectively the last hurrah of Legends. I found it a disappointment personally, but that was just me.
Seconded. I really did not like where the novels went post-New Jedi Order, esp. in comparison to what the new movies have been giving us.
Oh yes, I remember that. The big bad of the last dozen novels was this weird eldritch abomination that killed and possessed people and allied with a long-lost Sith tribe. It was not a good way to end a decades-long fictional universe.
Oh yes, that poker game. I also recall that the story seemed to be setting up Ben Skywalker with his deceased cousin's girlfriend who was not only significantly older then him but had stuck her hand down his pants in an icky interrogation scene some time earlier (she had been evil then). The villains were connected to some random pick a path game book you'd never heard of. Seriously, Crucible was just one of those "what the frak?" things.
Yeah, in her intro series, they had set her up as reforming and then she just suddenly decided she couldn't. I don't know, given how much time they'd put into the character getting redemption and gotten the readers invested in it, I'm not sure who thought it was a good idea to undo everything like that.
