Will there be Cardassians in the new show?

[Nveid Jo'rek]

The Cardassians should have been standing on rather weak ground, now that their political power put them on a Bajoran "DS9 Episode 001: The Emissary" state. I see no reason that the Cardassians shouldn't be getting Federation support at this point. I wouldn't mind seeing Cardassians and Bajorans burying the hatchet on a much grander scale.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

It would depend on the shows setting. If post-Nemesis then they would be rebuilding after the war, probably more focused on their own recovery than larger interstellar affairs, though that's not to say that they wouldn't feature in an episode or two. If its the "Lost Era" then we have the Cardassian Wars to look at.

 

[The Overlord]

If this show is set between Star Trek 6 and the first season of TNG, like some rumors have suggested, they could explore the Federation/Cardassian war that happened in that time.

 

[Gov Kodos]

Indulgence in self-referencing played a great part in sending Trek into mothballs. Better off not worrying about reffing past shows.

 

[The Overlord]

Indulgence in self-referencing played a great part in sending Trek into mothballs. Better off not worrying about reffing past shows.

Fair enough, but given the potential time period of the show, it is something you can easily introduce without relying on past continuity at all.

If this show is set between Star Trek 6 and TNG, what other civilizations would be rivals to the Federation? They have peace with the Klingons, the Borg are not around yet and the Romulans were in isolation. Unless they make up some new rival civilizations, Cardassians seem to be the only rivals around in that era.

 

[Mudd]

What's a Cardassian? Other than Kim, I mean.

 

[DS9forever]

It would be cool, but I don't think it would happen. Fuller's DS9 episodes did feature Cardassians in major roles (Garak and Silaran Prin)

 

[aloha62]

Did the Federation have much dealings with the Cardys back in the early days?

Wouldn't be sad if they didn't return, a fairly dull race of space failures.

 

[shady12]

Unless it's set in the wrong era why in the world do people think it wouldn't happen? Do we really want all new aliens (unless set after anything else in canon and it makes sense to not have any of the old ones back)? It is annoying and takes you out of the show when we see something set in eras we've see and seen past and we see a lot of aliens that have been hiding until right then.

 

[DS9forever]

Did the Federation have much dealings with the Cardys back in the early days?

Wouldn't be sad if they didn't return, a fairly dull race of space failures.

You're talking about the Romulans, even if you don't know it.

 

[Annorax849]

Indulgence in self-referencing played a great part in sending Trek into mothballs.

Not really. A lot of people ITT are complaining about going back to fairly obscure storylines, but Enterprise didn't really do that until the fourth season. By that point, there was almost no way the show was going to turn the ratings around.

 

[Jedi Marso]

The only way I want to see Cardassians in the new show is if it is set in or beyond the TNG era. If it's in the TOS era, then as far as I'm concerned we don't need to see them. Or the Ferengi. Or the Borg. Or Q. Or anything else established as new and exciting in the 24th Century.

 

[Tenacity]

I see no reason that the Cardassians shouldn't be getting Federation support at this point

Why? Seriously, post war the Cardassians should only have their original single star system, all their colonies and conquests would be stripped from them and likely the majority of any remaining starships. They were a problem before the Dominion came on the scene, they rebelled against the Dominion only out of their own best interests, not because they suddenly became "good guys." They're still the same people who raped and pillaged Bajor.

Support them why?

Do we really want all new aliens

Yes.

If the new series were set a decade or two prior to TNG's start, then the Cardassians would naturally be a part of the then political landscape, the border war with the Federation would be in full swing.

 

[DonIago]

Those who wonder why we might want to support the Cardassians post-Dominion War might want to review post-WWI history.

 

[Tenacity]

Ahhh, so the Federation will support the Cardassians to help counter the Soviet Union, it's so clear now.

I'll remind you Japan was stripped of it's military conquests and many pre-war colonies, and the majority of it's fleet. America rewrote their constitution, and re-ordered aspects of their civilian society.

Germany didn't get to hang on to eastern Europe, France and a large portion of western Russia.

 

[Jedi Marso]

Those who wonder why we might want to support the Cardassians post-Dominion War might want to review post-WWI history.

Ahhh, so the Federation will support the Cardassians to help counter the Soviet Union, it's so clear now.

I'll remind you Japan was stripped of it's military conquests and many pre-war colonies, and the majority of it's fleet. America rewrote their constitution, and re-ordered aspects of their civilian society.

Germany didn't get to hang on to eastern Europe, France and a large portion of western Russia.

Tenacity, Doniago is referring to the Treaty of Versailles, after WW ONE, not what happened leading to the Cold War after WWII. The harshness of the Treaty of Versailles contributed directly to the rise of the Nazi Party, Hitler's atrocities, and WWII. The implication is that treating impoverished Cardassia too harshly in the post-Dominion era could result in the same sort of negative result in the long term, perhaps eventually leading to another war between Cardassia and the Federation.

 

[DonIago]

^Just so. Thank you.

 

[Tenacity]

Okay, I misread WWI as WWII.

Still, not helping a demonstrated hostile power rebuild (if that's what you meant) is different than milking a defeated opponent for war reparations.

And I do think that any conquests similar to Bajor (if any) should be freed of Cardassian control, any star system ceded by treaty to the Cardassians by the Federation (Journey's End) should revert to the Federation. Beyond the minimum to barely defend their home system, they should lose their military starships.

Let's face it, the Cardassians backed the wrong team, and did a lot of damage before changing their minds.

But no war reparations.

 

[Jedi Marso]

There's definitely a difference between rebuilding a defeated opponent, leaving him alone to rebuild on his own, and stepping on his neck so that his rebuilding efforts are completely hamstrung. I trust that the Federation in the aftermath of the Dominion War would choose the right balance to ensure that Cardassia isn't a future threat for some while, but at the same time not unduly adding to or prolonging the suffering of the Cardassian people.

 

[Tenacity]

Reestablishing Cardassia as a regional super power, definitely a no no.