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Will "The Phantom Menace 3D" bomb?

Broccoli said:
Mach5 said:
I first saw TPM some ten days after the Croatian première (which was almost five months after the domestic release, that kind of shit was normal back in the nineties), and I don't remember a single person leaving the (completely packed) theatre bitching about the movie. In fact, a lot of people appeared totally psyched (mostly because of the visuals, I reckon). Also, out of the dozens of my friends and schoolmates who saw it (it was considered a "must see", much like Avatar a decade later), not one of them talked trash about it.
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You raise an excellent point. When TPM was first released, it seemed as if everyone loved it. It wasn't until about 3-4 months later that the honeymoon period was over when opinion turned.
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Eh? I saw the stupid thing during the first week. When the lights came up, I looked at the people I was with and we all sorta shrugged...well, that kind of sucked, didn't it? It sure wasn't what we were expecting. None of us needed a movie critic to know when a movie doesn't deliver.

By the time AOTC came along, we weren't expecting anything but garbage. Even then, I was quasi hopeful, since Anakin was now played by a different actor. Maybe the problem was that they never should have focused on him as a kid? But then Hayden did that freaky creepy stalker thing of his (maybe he doesn't realize he's doing it? but that's what a DIRECTOR is for!) and I knew it was all over...
 
Mach5 said:
Eh, there are numerous examples of people praising those movies, than taking these praises back when they became uncool.
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A lot of people did that. I've never hidden the fact that I love the prequals even though that always gets me a WTF look from folks.
 
Well, Lucasfilm's marketing will be very Maul-centric next year... The action figures will all have Darth Maul packaging again, and the Darth Maul novel Shadow hunter is getting a new version.
 
Temis the Vorta said:
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Eh? I saw the stupid thing during the first week. When the lights came up, I looked at the people I was with and we all sorta shrugged...well, that kind of sucked, didn't it? It sure wasn't what we were expecting. None of us needed a movie critic to know when a movie doesn't deliver.
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I was born in '77 so slightly too young for all but Jedi the first time round. I wasn't too young for the toys - I was introduced to Star Wars via them and Star Wars on TV.

Phantom Menance is the first new film I ever considered going back to see a 2nd time at the cinema. I never got around to it in the end though.

As it happens Transformers Revenge Of The Fallen is the only film I ever have seen twice when new - purely because I'd seen it then suddenly had an IMAX opportunity!

I still find Phantom Menace easy to watch in one sitting, it's Attack Of The Clones I struggle with.
 
Capt_Pickirk said:
The only way to really watch the prequels is after they've been Fan Edited.
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This guy called Adywan, who already made a pretty amazing (and professional looking) re-edit of ANH, is planning on doing an extensive revemp of the PT. I remember reading on his blog that he's going to, among other things, change Mace Windu's lighsaber color to green or blue. :lol:

But seriously, his work is pretty frakking astounding. Check this out:

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPtwBQpDl08[/yt]
 
I think Menace has aged pretty well, also I remember how after I saw Revenge it actually somehow improved Menace and Clones by virtue of making more "sense" in relation to Revenge.
 
Mach5 said:
Capt_Pickirk said:
The only way to really watch the prequels is after they've been Fan Edited.
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This guy called Adywan, who already made a pretty amazing (and professional looking) re-edit of ANH, is planning on doing an extensive revemp of the PT. I remember reading on his blog that he's going to, among other things, change Mace Windu's lighsaber color to green or blue. :lol:

But seriously, his work is pretty frakking astounding. Check this out:
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Yeah, I've been aware of Adywan's work for a while. I've been a member on Originaltrilogy.com for a while which is sort of Ady's "Hub" of operations. Although he's had trouble with his father recently so his work on the edit has slowed down a bit.

I did in fact create a thread a while back about Fan edits. http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=140987
 
Temis the Vorta said:
Maybe the problem was that they never should have focused on him as a kid? But then Hayden did that freaky creepy stalker thing of his (maybe he doesn't realize he's doing it? but that's what a DIRECTOR is for!)
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Lucas is male, so he probably doesn't tend to automatically see males who don't fit the self-assured above-it-all Matt Lanter type as "freaky creepy stalkers". But he did screw up by not realizing that a large slice of the intended audience hates little kids.
 
Temis the Vorta said:
Broccoli said:
Mach5 said:
I first saw TPM some ten days after the Croatian première (which was almost five months after the domestic release, that kind of shit was normal back in the nineties), and I don't remember a single person leaving the (completely packed) theatre bitching about the movie. In fact, a lot of people appeared totally psyched (mostly because of the visuals, I reckon). Also, out of the dozens of my friends and schoolmates who saw it (it was considered a "must see", much like Avatar a decade later), not one of them talked trash about it.
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You raise an excellent point. When TPM was first released, it seemed as if everyone loved it. It wasn't until about 3-4 months later that the honeymoon period was over when opinion turned.
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Eh? I saw the stupid thing during the first week. When the lights came up, I looked at the people I was with and we all sorta shrugged...well, that kind of sucked, didn't it? It sure wasn't what we were expecting. None of us needed a movie critic to know when a movie doesn't deliver.
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That's nice. You had a unique experience. Most everywhere else, theaters erupted in applause. at the end of the flick and the general online consensus at the time was the film was "teh awesome".

By the time AOTC came along, we weren't expecting anything but garbage. Even then, I was quasi hopeful, since Anakin was now played by a different actor. Maybe the problem was that they never should have focused on him as a kid? But then Hayden did that freaky creepy stalker thing of his (maybe he doesn't realize he's doing it? but that's what a DIRECTOR is for!) and I knew it was all over...
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Wow. You saw AotC with the same audience that you saw TPM? You must have formed some bond during the first film! :lol:
 
Broccoli said:
That's nice. You had a unique experience. Most everywhere else, theaters erupted in applause. at the end of the flick and the general online consensus at the time was the film was "teh awesome".
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There was a difference between the first and second viewing in my case. The opening night crowd was quite enthusiastic, cheering the destruction of the TF droid control ship as though it were the Death Star. We even joked at the time that a member of our group had used a Jedi mind trick because he scored 12 tickets, ha ha.:vulcan: The second time I saw it was more than a week later; the Tea Party effect had already begun to set in and the crowd was disgruntled. I even got punched ( lightly ) in the arm by a complete stranger on my way out of the theater. I guess I must have looked like a convenient representative of the Star Wars nerd caste or something.
 
Capt_Pickirk said:
Yeah, I've been aware of Adywan's work for a while.
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That boy is our last hope. Of the Lightsabers being sorted out for ROTJ. The shadow (or lack of it) just before Luke throws it away really annoys me. Along with the Emperor's Mic. Neither should be that hard to fix, yet never have.

Thing is though with who knows what extras on the Bluray release won't a lot need revisting again?

I don't like the extra AT-AT though. Luke is responsible for destroying all of them in the film. If the rebels do it unaided, it weakens them.
 
Luke didn't take out any AT-ATs. Dak was dead, so Wedge and Janson toppled one of the Walkers. We never saw any other Walkers destroyed on-screen I think, although there was going to be a scene where Hobbie crashes into Veer's AT-AT.


In other words Hoth was a bad defeat for the rebellion, sort of setting the tone for the whole film.
 
I watched the sequence again just to make sure.

Luke divises the strategem when he notices the armor is too strong for blasters but he doesn't actually destroy any walkers personally.


Luke's gunner, Dak dies (and also has a malfunction) before he can fire the tow cables. Wedge/Janson does the tow cable thing, topple the walker, and then the Walker is destroyed by two snowspeeders hitting the neck (Although it looks like some rebels wanted to board it). I suppose it could've been Luke and Wedge's snowspeeders (We only see two snowspeeders approach the walker but it's unclear in the film whose piloting them) that take it out that way, but Luke didn't do any of the actual toppling. He tries to do a second run with Rogue two (Zev, who rescued Luke and Han earlier in the film) but Zev dies and Luke gets hit.

There are four walkers total, that's the only one we see destroyed in the film itself. Veer's walker and two others survive.
 
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