Will the new enterprise be larger than the TOS?
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So your saying bigger is not always better?
Rii
Rear Admiral
Extensive automation as you'd expect on a starship accounts for the crew complement easily enough, also the carriers have disproportionately high crewing requirements relative to other military and civilian vessels, primarily on account of the air wing and related support infrastructure.
Wait. How do we know I've mistakenly identified it as the hangar of the Enterprise? Let's discuss this.
The scene's been identified by people who have seen parts of the film as one showing Starfleet cadets being assigned to ships during an emergency and boarding shuttles for them. This is the scene in which Kirk talks McCoy into getting him aboard the Enterprise via a "medical regulation."
It's also
almost certainly a ground-based shuttleport based on visual evidence (i.e., the sunlight shining in the windows from the exterior in a way that would not be consistent with a shipborne shuttle bay.) Compare a still from the movie
(click to enlarge) with this photo
of the old Hangar One at Moffett Field.
(click to enlarge) with this photo
of the old Hangar One at Moffett Field.
Yeah, the original TOS ship was supposed to be 289 meters long(948 feet plus change) and the TMP/movie refit design was 305 meters(1,001 feet and a few inches), so actually most modern, real-life USN supercarriers are longer than the Kirk Enterprises were.
Where's that tidbit come from?
And how does it invalidate my point about the bridge set size?
It doesn't. You asked how we knew that the hangar set isn't the Enterprise hangar.
The point about the bridge is kind of a non-point, in that the larger bridge would fit into a ship the size of the original Enterprise or for that matter a ship half its size so it's no evidence on its own for either an up-or-down scaled ship.
Now, what people are saying about the Engineering deck (not yet seen) does suggest either a much larger ship or one that's laid out very differently.
That may be true. The Engineering deck, which is apparently essentially rows of brewery tanks, probably takes up most of that space.
Although, when you think of it, the TOS engine room didn't look like a more advanced 80s/90s warp core set either...or even the TMP redesign from '78-'79. It never showed a vertical or even horizontal warp core full of glowing plasma and was basically just a bunch of big generator-looking thingys with blinking lights and mesh grating in front of them. So in a roundabout way the new movie engine room will probably feel more like TOS's than we think.
And with more brewery tanks as well.
Aye captain i can give you warp power buts its green.
