Will "Into Darkness" be a 911 parable?

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Romulan_spy, Dec 27, 2012.

  1. bdb

    bdb Lieutenant Red Shirt

    Oct 27, 2003
    Could be that in response to the destruction of Vulcan (which Lindelof said had a 9-11 effect on the Federation) some group within Star Fleet starts experiments to create soldiers that they think will now be needed.

    So, they crack open the Eugenics War cook book, and begin secret experiments on unwitting (and unknowing) Star Fleet personnel. One of them (John Harrison) finds out about it, and gets a little upset.
  2. Romulan_spy

    Romulan_spy Commodore Commodore

    Sep 8, 2000
    Terre Haute, IN. USA
    That would make sense. After the destruction of Vulcan, Starfleet implements its own version of the PATRIOT Act. John Harrison is a Starfleet captain who disagrees strongly, believing it curbs personal liberties too much and undermines the values of the Federation. To prove that it is useless (destroys liberty while not increasing security), John Harrison launches his attack on Starfleet, hence the line in the trailer about "you think your world is safe, it is an illusion to protect you". This would also explain why Cumberbatch said that the villain's motives are sympathetic. After all, he genuinely believes that Starfleet is curbing personal liberty and betraying its core values.
  3. JarodRussell

    JarodRussell Vice Admiral Admiral

    Jul 2, 2009
    9/11 has been more than 10 years ago. It's time for Hollywood to move on.
  4. Robert Maxwell

    Robert Maxwell memelord Premium Member

    Jun 12, 2001
    Hollywood still makes movies about World War II. "Moving on" is not their thing. :p
  5. JarodRussell

    JarodRussell Vice Admiral Admiral

    Jul 2, 2009
    True, but there's a slight difference. With 9/11, writers, directors et al. are still trying to overcome their trauma.

    Season 3 of Enterprise was already more than enough commentary on 9/11 and its aftermath. No need to rehash it again.
  6. SalvorHardin

    SalvorHardin Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Mar 6, 2008
    Star's End
    The world itself though isn't over 9/11 yet.
    We still feel its effects in various ways...laws, security measures, war etc etc
  7. Crazy Eddie

    Crazy Eddie Vice Admiral Admiral

    Apr 12, 2006
    Your Mom
    Particularly in the form of American bullets, and increasingly in the form of Missiles-Out-Of-Fucking-Nowhere drone attacks.

    Picture the Federation conducting a series of random and indiscriminate drone attacks against Romulan colonies, ostensibly to suppress rogue Nero-like elements that might threaten the Federation. Kirk -- who knows better than anyone that Nero didn't come from any of those colonies and was an isolated case -- may have to chose between the brazen illegality of the attacks and the creeping evil of Gary Mitchel's divine-yet-much-deserved vengeance. The moral question being "Which of these evils is the lesser one? The evil that WE do, or the evil that is about to be done to us?"

    Of course if Abrams pulls this off he would probably be charged with a war crime for the half a billion heads that would explode trying to parse this story, and I doubt it will end up anywhere near that deep.
  8. Kruezerman

    Kruezerman Commodore Commodore

    Jun 3, 2012
    Meatloaf with Macaroni and Cheese
    A political Trek like The Undiscovered Country?

    That'd be brilliant.