Will Before Dishonors Ending Affect Voyager books? Spoilers!
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Coming soon: B-4 Dishonor. Kathryn Janeway is resurrected by Q, only to be sucked out an airlock by a clumsy but well-meaning android. Hilarity ensues.
Isn't that basically the concept of Honey, I Blew Up the Kid--as well as "Letitia Lerner, Superman's Babysitter?"
Like what? I can't think of anything...
global warming? the economy? the looming prospect of a new Cold War, which may go hot provoking WWIII? Darfur? Zimbabwe? Burma? England's World Cup qualifiers? The Paralympics? the new season of the A1GP?
I wouldn`t have killed him in the first place and certainly not like that.
But, no, I am not in favour of turning B4 into Data. B4 is his own person and what was downloaded were Datas` memories, not his personality. Even if or when B4 will mature enough to be able to make use of these memories, he will never BE Data.
Sounds serious *closes book*
"Hey Kathy, what does this button do?"
LOLOLOL, I dunno. I heard they need a cook.
Maybe Starfleet could use him to send secret messages, he could spell out new orders for the crew in alpha-ghetti or something.
Give him temporary downloadable skills, he could be a ninja... or interface with the ship... if you get bored of him being dumb, you could whip out some nanoprobes and smart him up. Lots of possibilities.
Why would not reading something that makes you unhappy be narrow minded? I read fan fiction but I don’t read Dead Janeway fan fiction. I don’t like it, so if I will not read it for free why should I pay money to read something I already know I will not like. It’s not hurting myself, it’s being prudent in how I spend my money and the bottom line is will people spend money on this book? Some will, but I think that more would have with a living Janeway as a character, than will for a dead one.
Think about this, a book recently published took the basic concept of two enemies have to work together. In some places you could almost hear the Voyager character’s voices. It apparently is selling pretty well, I loved it and the people I recommended it to loved it. It is selling to the very people that actually purchase and read books and in the genera that out sells any other genera. The writers and publishers are missing a very good opportunity. So I have pretty good reason to believe that I am not the one that is being narrow minded.
One other point, why is it good for the fandom to trash (and in this case I think the manner of her death alone, assaulted by the Borg and as the villain of the story is completely trashing the character) a major character and one who has both a loyal and vocal following? Kate Mulgrew is one of the few Trek actors that still takes time to go to conventions and make herself available to Trek fans. Now you have killed her character, just how is that a good thing?
You can call me narrow minded all you want, but it is my dollar that I am spending and I don’t want to read dead Janeway and I will not pay for it and frankly I don’t think I am alone in this. I want her back and I don’t care if it is a cheesy resurrection because it was a cheesy and uncalled for death in the first place and frankly insulting to many many fans
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Damn, where did I leave my tiny violin...?
That's irrelevant, I think. Peter Mayhew still goes to Star Wars conventions, even though Chewbacca was killed off in those novels, and he's still very popular.
davidh
It's also irrelevant because the books are read by only 1 to 2 percent of the Trek audience, so Janeway's death in the books won't make any difference to most of Mulgrew's fans anyway.
The bulk of the Trek actors still go to conventions, though with varying frequency, of course. Data being killed doesn't seem to have weakened Brent Spiner's stance on attending them (and he remains one of the most popular guests). Ditto Terry Farrell.
Well, personally I'm not too surprised that Data's death didn't affect Terry Farrell's stance...!
Heck, being killed off, even onscreen, has never stopped a Trek actor from being a convention regular. Let's just look at the Trek guests for the past four Shore Leave conventions (which I still have the booklets for). They include such killed-off personages as William Windom (Matt Decker), Joanna Cassidy (T'Les), Patricia Tallman (one of the "Starship Mine" pirates), Connor Trinneer (Trip), Antoinette Bower (Sylvia), Casey Biggs (Damar), Malcolm McDowell (Soran), and W. Morgan Sheppard (Ira Graves, among others). Not to mention actors who'd "died" in other franchises such as Alexis Cruz, Paul McGillion, Carmen Argenziano, Danny Strong, and Dean Haglund. Indeed, in some cases the killed-off actors outnumbered the ones whose characters survived.
I would have thought Patty Tallman was there for her B5 connections rather than Trek...
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