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Wil Wheaton endorses Barack Obama!

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^Yeah, well, the Republican choices are like trying to figure out whether you'd rather have amoebic dysentery or explosive diarrhea.

No matter who wins this election, I've got the feeling we're all losers this year.
 
AdmiralGarak said:
No wonder he's loosing. Tell Americans what a bunch of foreigners want them to do, and they're bound to do the complete opposite out of sheer spite. :lol:

:rommie:

Dr. Paul seems like a sincere guy, and I appreciate his libertarian leanings but I'm afraid he's a bit too delusional to make a good President. Isolationism isn't a workable foreign policy, and hasn't been for decades. (Plus some of his domestic policy beliefs, such as opposition to reproductive rights, is a non-starter.) Interesting the world votes for the guy who has the iffiest handle on reality (well other than Huckleberry, I guess, but his delusions are different).

Yknow what would be an interesting poll? Asking furriners which candidate they'd vote for as President of their own country (which is really more to the point, isn't it?) Not which halfwit you'd cheerfully inflict on other people. :rommie:

I just have an immense amount of skepticism that Paul's libertarian leanings would be all that palatable worldwide. I haven't noticed the world being very libertarian at all; the nanny state philosophy is far too popular. America is probably the most libertarian culture in the world, and if we won't elect Paul, nobody else will either.
 
A beaker full of death said:
Wil Wheaton's opinion matters... why?

Because he has a popular blog I guess?
[and btw. he says himself in that blog entry: "not that my endorsement means much of anything, but . . ." ;)]
 
If only Will knew how much his beloved Senator Obama is supported by very corrupt power brokers who are responsible for the biggest bouts of U.S. imperialism in the '60's, '70's and '80's, he be denoucing him from the highest rooftops instead!

Here's the evidence:
AMY GOODMAN: Presidential candidates are scrambling to win last-minute support in Iowa ahead of tonight’s caucus. Thousands of reporters have also descended on Iowa this week, covering everything from Mike Huckabee’s haircut to John Edwards’s rally with singer John Mellencamp.

But little attention has been paid to perhaps one of the most important aspects of the candidates: their advisers, the men and women who likely form the backbone of the candidate’s future cabinet if elected president. Many of the names will be familiar.

Advisers to Hillary Rodham Clinton include many former top officials in President Clinton’s administration: former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, former National Security Adviser Samuel Berger, former UN Ambassador Richard Holbrooke. Senator Barack Obama’s list includes President Carter’s National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski, former counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke, former Middle East negotiator Dennis Ross.

Rudolph Giuliani’s advisers include Norman Podhoretz, one of the fathers of the neoconservative movement. John McCain’s list of official and formal policy advisers includes former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, General Colin Powell, William Kristol of The Weekly Standard, and former CIA Director James Woolsey. One of Mitt Romney’s top advisers is Cofer Black, the former CIA official who now serves as vice chair of Blackwater Worldwide. Vice President Dick Cheney’s daughter Elizabeth is advising Fred Thompson.

As for Mike Huckabee, it’s not clear. In December, Huckabee listed former UN Ambassador John Bolton as someone with whom he either has “spoken or will continue to speak,” but Bolton then revealed the two had never spoken. Huckabee also named Richard Allen, but the former National Security Adviser also admitted he had never spoken to Huckabee.

Who are Senator Obama's advisors, and why are they so despicable? Here's the reason why:

AMY GOODMAN: Barack Obama?

ALLAN NAIRN: Well, Obama’s top adviser is Zbigniew Brzezinski. Brzezinski gave an interview to the French press a number of years ago where he boasted about the fact that it was he who created the whole Afghan jihadi movement, the movement that produced Osama bin Laden. And he was asked by the interviewer, “Well, don’t you think this might have had some bad consequences?” And Brzezinski replied, “Absolutely not. It was definitely worth it, because we were going after the Soviets. We were getting the Soviets.” Another top Obama person—

AMY GOODMAN: I think his comment actually was, “What’s a few riled-up Muslims?” And this, that whole idea of blowback, the idea of arming, financing, training the Mujahideen in Afghanistan to fight the Soviets, including Osama bin Laden, and then when they’re done with the Soviets, they set their sights, well, on the United States.

ALLAN NAIRN: Right. And later, during Bill Clinton’s administration, during the Bosnia killing, the US actually flew some of the Afghan Mujahideen, the early al-Qaeda people—the US actually arranged for them to be flown from there to Bosnia to fight on the Muslim/NATO side.

Another key Obama adviser, Anthony Lake, he was the main force behind the US invasion of Haiti in the mid-Clinton years during which they brought back Aristide essentially in political chains, pledged to support a World Bank/IMF overhaul of the economy, which resulted in an increase in malnutrition deaths among Haitians and set the stage for the current ongoing political disaster in Haiti.

Another Obama adviser, General Merrill McPeak, an Air Force man, who not long after the Dili massacre in East Timor in ’91 that you and I survived, he was—I happened to see on Indonesian TV shortly after that—there was General McPeak overseeing the delivery to Indonesia of US fighter planes.

Another key Obama adviser, Dennis Ross. Ross, for many years under both Clinton and Bush 2, a key—he has advised Clinton and both Bushes. He oversaw US policy toward Israel/Palestine. He pushed the principle that the legal rights of the Palestinians, the rights recognized under international law, must be subordinated to the needs of the Israeli government—in other words, their desires, their desires to expand to do whatever they want in the Occupied Territories. And Ross was one of the people who, interestingly, led the political assault on former Democratic President Jimmy Carter. Carter, no peacenik—I mean, Carter is the one who bears ultimate responsibility for that Timor terror that Holbrooke was involved in. But Ross led an assault on him, because, regarding Palestine, Carter was so bold as to agree with Bishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa that what Israel was doing in the Occupied Territories was tantamount to apartheid. And so, Ross was one of those who fiercely attacked him.

Another Obama adviser, Sarah Sewall, who heads a human rights center at Harvard and is a former Defense official, she wrote the introduction to General Petraeus’s Marine Corps/Army counterinsurgency handbook, the handbook that is now being used worldwide by US troops in various killing operations. That’s the Obama team.

U.S. Elections For Change Linked With U.S. Atrocities Abroad

If Will's the smart liberal he claims to be, he'd be voting for the Green Party candidate Ralph Nader. :rolleyes:
 
It's always a little hard to draw the line on how much "genuine" political discussion these threads should have but the post above is maybe a little too distanced from Wil Wheaton.

I'm not too worried because it's a difficult tightrope, but please could everyone keep that in mind.
 
Outpost4 said:
I'm certain Gates McFadden is supporting Hillary. ;)

Which only leaves the pressing question:

What does Patrick Stewart think of Gordon Brown?
 
Kegek said:Which only leaves the pressing question:

What does Patrick Stewart think of Gordon Brown?
No idea, but Pat Stewart has been in Labour promo videos passed around early last year, so he's a supporter of the party at least. (Which isn't telling much, as Brown has always seemed very unpopular to most Labour members I've known!) Oh, and I have memories of volunteering to hand delivering Labour fliers with Patrick Stewart's endorsement on, I think that was in 2004.
 
Good Will Riker said:
Wil Wheaton (Star Trek: The Tour's "Lieutenant Commander Wesley Crusher")

He's a Lieutenant Commander now? :rolleyes:

Did Wil take the liberty of promoting his own character? Give it a few more years and "Wesley Crusher" will be an Admiral!
 
cardinal biggles said:
^Yeah, well, the Republican choices are like trying to figure out whether you'd rather have amoebic dysentery or explosive diarrhea.

No matter who wins this election, I've got the feeling we're all losers this year.

It's just a shame that Newt didn't get into the race. I think he could have caught fire if he'd got into the race by early summer, instead of early fall like Thompson did.
 
Johnny Rico said:
It's just a shame that Newt didn't get into the race. I think he could have caught fire if he'd got into the race by early summer, instead of early fall like Thompson did.

Well, let's all hold out hope that he will run as an Independent.
 
warriorsfan said:
Good Will Riker said:
Wil Wheaton (Star Trek: The Tour's "Lieutenant Commander Wesley Crusher")

He's a Lieutenant Commander now? :rolleyes:

Did Wil take the liberty of promoting his own character? Give it a few more years and "Wesley Crusher" will be an Admiral!
Wesley returns in The Tour exhibition as a lieutenant commander. link
 
exalted one said:
Good for Will Wheaton. Nevertheless, The World still endorses Ron Paul. :D
AdmiralGarak said:
No wonder he's loosing. Tell Americans what a bunch of foreigners want them to do, and they're bound to do the complete opposite out of sheer spite. :lol:
72.4% of the Ron Paul votes on that website are from the US. Seriously. Go look. In fact the vast, vast majority of votes (81.1%) on that site are from the US.
 
Good Will Riker said:
Wil Wheaton...endorses Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

Wow. I'm one of those infamous Paul nuts, but I have to admit that this is a big deal. Because as we all know, Will Wheaton has enormous influence throughout the USA. I for one, like most Americans, don't make a move until I've heard what Wesley Crusher has to say.

I'm glad Will's humble enough to acknowledge his own greatness. :lol:
 
exalted one said:
Good for Will Wheaton. Nevertheless, The World still endorses Ron Paul. :D

Yeah, that website isn't suspect at all. :rolleyes:

I can easily see hundreds of Ron Paul supporters voting on every country they can to boost the numbers, that would fit their behavioral patterns thus far. Probably a bunch of Diggers. :lol:

Most people outside the US wouldn't have a clue who RP was or what he stood for.
 
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