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Why would an EMH be the first holographic crewmember?

In Ent. Oasis, we see a ship with an almost all holographic crew. I wonder why they didn't try this in Starfleet. You could have a ship where only the Captain would be "organic"... Not to mention that we do have one of those ships in season 7.
 
Would you want a crewmember created by a wonderful feat of engineering to be your only hope if engineering systems were damaged?

Well, not "your only hope" of course. Just as a backup, akin to the role originally envisaged for the EMH .

Similarly: voyager was heavily damaged when transported to the delta quadrant, with even something like an imminent warp core breach in progress. The EMH -their 'only hope' now that their doctor had been killed -could have been unavailable for the first few hours just as easily as that hypothetical holographic engineer ...
 
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Would you want a crewmember created by a wonderful feat of engineering to be your only hope if engineering systems were damaged?

I don't know. Would you want your only hope of surviving a car crash to be an air bag triggered by a computer program?
 
Would you want your only hope of surviving a car crash to be an air bag triggered by a computer program?
No, that why we wear seat belts, even though the car is equipped with the computer controlled airbags.

A wholly mechnical safety device that doesn't need a computer, power source, etc..

Every department should have their own back up Emergency Holographic Crewmember.
So in the event of a tragedy, there would be an EHN.

Emergency Holographic Neelix.

:lol:
 
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Would you want your only hope of surviving a car crash to be an air bag triggered by a computer program?
No, that why we wear seat belts, even though the car is equipped with the computer controlled airbags.

A wholly mechnical safety device that doesn't need a computer, power source, etc..

Every department should have their own back up Emergency Holographic Crewmember.
So in the event of a tragedy, there would be an EHN.

Emergency Holographic Neelix.

:lol:

Morale officer by way of punching bag?
 
In Meld, do you really think that that was the first time someone had choked out a holographic Neelix?

That's why the crew were so excited in Worst Case Scenario. "A new holodeck program from the makers of Choke the Chef."

(I considered "Strangling the Talaxian", but that sounds like Delta Quadrant slang.)
 
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Would you want a crewmember created by a wonderful feat of engineering to be your only hope if engineering systems were damaged?

I don't know. Would you want your only hope of surviving a car crash to be an air bag triggered by a computer program?

Apples and oranges!

A better analogy would be:

Would you want your only protection against a computer problem to be controlled by the computer having the problem?
 
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Would you want a crewmember created by a wonderful feat of engineering to be your only hope if engineering systems were damaged?

I don't know. Would you want your only hope of surviving a car crash to be an air bag triggered by a computer program?

Apples and oranges!

A better analogy would be:

Would you want your only protection against a computer problem to be controlled by the computer having the problem?
Not true. The two systems could be independent. For example when there's a power outage your land phone is still functioning in spite of it needing electricity to operate.
 
Apples and oranges!

A better analogy would be:

Would you want your only protection against a computer problem to be controlled by the computer having the problem?
Not true. The two systems could be independent. For example when there's a power outage your land phone is still functioning in spite of it needing electricity to operate.

Besides, no one is suggesting (at least I'm not) that that would be your 'only protection'. There would always still be your traditional engineering crew so you would never be worse off than without such a backup system at all.

Unless, of course, you assume that the hologram could go nuts because of damage and actively inflict all kind of additional damage to the systems on its own.

Well, that is a possibility that can't be precluded. But then, neither could the voyager crew have known for sure whether the EMH could be trusted fully in many crisis situations where there was extensive damage to the ship (and let's face it, even without other damage to the ship, the doctor did go mad in a few situations). Should they have turned it of permanently then, as well ?

As it is, La Forge admits in the TNG episode 'contagion':

Captain, the Enterprise computer system is a lot like our own bodies with voluntary and involuntary system. Now, probably ninety percent of what happens on this ship is done automatically. Completely out of our control. We're sitting on a bomb that could go off any second, or maybe never.

As Voyager is slightly more advanced than Enterprise, I'd expect that percentage to be even higher on Voyager. I've never seen any indication they started to implement additional failsafes for 'contagion' like events after that episode.
 
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I think they tried to suggest it was due to it's being a prototype and the immense amount of power required to use the EMH so a small sick bay could include an extra pair of hands

Not sure I buy that though. It would make sense to have them in other areas of the ship.

I never understood why we didn't see hologram crew in DS9. Why no EMH on the Defiant? Apparently they were new technology that Starfleet were using everywhere (yet we didn't see them). We know the EMH holograms were constantly being upgraded (the mark 2 mocks the EMH) and Zimmerman mentions further upgrades.......so where are they?...why don't we see more of them?

By the end of Voyager, it's hinted that holograms will become full equal citizens so I doubt they'll be able to use them as tools on ships anymore.......but lots of crew members maybe

Defiant and Sao Paulo aka Defiant - A probably had an EMH but the CMO was never compromised so having the EMH appear wouldn't make much sense... unless Borg soldiers are on board and you need a silly distraction to promote Voyager.
 
The Defiant wouldn't have had a hologrid installed into it's sickbay because that is against the philosophy of the ships Spartan design.

Stringing thousands of holoemitters together into a cooperative network, is probably very invasive if they have to unscrew the walls to sickbay, and could take anywhere from a week to a month.
 
Ever wonder how the EMH even manages to stay in place when he's fit to the mobile emitter? Since he has no mass, the slightest wind should blow him away.

Nope, never wondered about that. Although I've it always thought a strange (but not paradoxical or so) idea that the mobile emitter first 'generates' the EMH, who then 'carries' around the emitter.... so essentially the emitter carries around itself...

However, I have wondered how the 'internal transporter node' system from the "29th century drone" would work.... I mean, in order for the drone to rematerialise at another location without external transporter there probably would have to be part of the internal transporter nodes that can't be dematerialised themselves at that instant, but must be transported slightly earlier or slightly later, right ?

But that's another topic ;)

Maybe the mobile emitter generates some sort of force field which creates mass.
 
Ever wonder how the EMH even manages to stay in place when he's fit to the mobile emitter? Since he has no mass, the slightest wind should blow him away.

Nope, never wondered about that. Although I've it always thought a strange (but not paradoxical or so) idea that the mobile emitter first 'generates' the EMH, who then 'carries' around the emitter.... so essentially the emitter carries around itself...

However, I have wondered how the 'internal transporter node' system from the "29th century drone" would work.... I mean, in order for the drone to rematerialise at another location without external transporter there probably would have to be part of the internal transporter nodes that can't be dematerialised themselves at that instant, but must be transported slightly earlier or slightly later, right ?

But that's another topic ;)

Maybe the mobile emitter generates some sort of force field which creates mass.

Maybe not mass per se but inertia definitely. If they can create inertial dampeners, they probably can also create inertial boosters.
 
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