Why wasn't there ever a ds9 movie?

[Alex1939]

The best written trek series, with secondary characters who were greatly developed, not to mention the primary ones.

It's perfectly been pointed out that DS9 did not have the audience.


The true crime is that we never got a crossover movie with TNG/DS9/Voyager cast members. (and I loathe 80% of Voyager)


I would hope it would've been a better plot and script than Generations, but from a fanbase standpoint, a movie with all or even combined partial casts would've been such an

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Or not. Looking at Trek's history at the movies, I tend to think not. As a true-blooded Niner, I feel no angst whatsoever about the lack of a DS9 movie. On the contrary, I rejoice because DS9 is a great show partly because it was never destined to be the standard-bearer for the franchise.

It was a show with a quality cast and a group of writers with good ideas, a love of Star Trek and some actual creative ambition inspiring them to strive for more than mediocrity. Fortunately they were left alone to do their thing for the most part: we have seven seasons to enjoy and don't have to suffer through the DS9 crew (other than Worf) exchanging lame jokes with Crusher and Troi, or inane technobabble with Chakotay and Kim.

 

[DS9 Gal AZ]

The closest thing Niners will get to a DS9 movie is reading the Relaunch Novels.

And on that note ... to the library!

Aww, who am I kidding, my library doesn't have those books...

To the bookstore!

Damn, they're closed by now.

Wait a minute ....

To the KINDLE!

 

[Quinton O'Connor]

Never underestimate the relentlessness of a Niner!

 

[TheLobes]

I dont think they needed one. The show was called 'Deep Space Nine' for a reason, it started when the station became important, at the discovery of the wormhole. It ended when it became less important, at the end of the Dominion War. One of the reasons I love the last shot of Deep Space Nine was that it pulled out to show how small the station was, underlining the fact that this was a history of the station in its most important time.

 

[Mr. Scott]

I have never been a great fan of the Star Trek films, especially the TNG ones. Star Trek to me translates much better in series form. In my opinion ST-IV was the last good one, and that movie is 25 years old.

What I wish the franchise would do is a quality animated series. Or just do another series altogether. However, networks dont want to do sci-fi because of the great expense vs. the return of the investment involved.

What story could a DS9 film be about? Sisko is a god, Kassidy divorced is ass and took his pension, Quarkmy or may not be running the bar, Odo is jello, Worf is now an inattentive grandfather, Bashir turned into a Ketracel White addict, and Miles is out fishing. Not much of a story.

 

[Too Much Fun]

What story could a DS9 film be about? Sisko is a god, Kassidy divorced is ass and took his pension, Quarkmy or may not be running the bar, Odo is jello, Worf is now an inattentive grandfather, Bashir turned into a Ketracel White addict, and Miles is out fishing. Not much of a story.

Paramount, hire this man!

 

[robtclements]

One other aspect to the problem, which has been implied here but not spelled out clearly: at its best-which was surprisingly often-DS9 was a beautifully written show. Its stories were often superb; & featured a loving attention to character detail by a group of writers who have moved on (not always to better things). It wouldn't be enough (for this Niner, at least) to see a vacuous 3D showreel with the Promenade on prominent display to get me in the cinema-i'd have to enthusiastic about a story at least attempting to compete with Explorers, Trouble with Tribbles, Pale Moonlight, etc

When Avatar-or even the ST revert-is considered good storytelling, real storytelling doesn't have a hope

 

[RandyS]

I have never been a great fan of the Star Trek films, especially the TNG ones. Star Trek to me translates much better in series form. In my opinion ST-IV was the last good one, and that movie is 25 years old.

What I wish the franchise would do is a quality animated series. Or just do another series altogether. However, networks dont want to do sci-fi because of the great expense vs. the return of the investment involved.

What story could a DS9 film be about? Sisko is a god, Kassidy divorced is ass and took his pension, Quarkmy or may not be running the bar, Odo is jello, Worf is now an inattentive grandfather, Bashir turned into a Ketracel White addict, and Miles is out fishing. Not much of a story.

Somebody else want to point out the severe mistakes in this? I'm just too tired.

 

[Quinton O'Connor]

If you're talking about the last paragraph, I'm pretty sure it wasn't meant to be taken seriously.

 

[Mr. Scott]

I have never been a great fan of the Star Trek films, especially the TNG ones. Star Trek to me translates much better in series form. In my opinion ST-IV was the last good one, and that movie is 25 years old.

What I wish the franchise would do is a quality animated series. Or just do another series altogether. However, networks dont want to do sci-fi because of the great expense vs. the return of the investment involved.

What story could a DS9 film be about? Sisko is a god, Kassidy divorced is ass and took his pension, Quarkmy or may not be running the bar, Odo is jello, Worf is now an inattentive grandfather, Bashir turned into a Ketracel White addict, and Miles is out fishing. Not much of a story.

Somebody else want to point out the severe mistakes in this? I'm just too tired.

I'm sorry, I typed that the two days I was between keyboards and was typing by mouse.

After DS9, what is left?

Sisko joined the Prophets.

Kira is the Captain (right term?) of DS9.

Odo went back to the Founders. Every night he leaves the muck of the Great Link and mumbles to himself, "and I thought the Cardassians were assholes, humph!"

Quark is running the bar.

Garek is back on Cardassia. The other Cardassians are dead.

O'Brien went back to Earth.

Jake is writing for the Federation News Service.

Worf is doing whatever job that Worf decides to do, Klingon ambassador, third officer on the Enterprise, still forgetting he has a son and is probably looking for another non-Klingon woman to mate and bore to death.

General Martok opens a Klingon bar on DS9. Gets a bottle of vintage Erguotou (wikipedia it) from Commander Harry Kim.

Romulans are boring. The Adrienne Barbeau Romulan might have been fun to try to seduce. That woman could bounce like a basketball filled with helium.

Morn ran out of people to talk to.

Rom ran Ferenganar into the ground and was overthrown by right wing revolutionaries and is back to being a Capitalist empire.

The Female Shapeshifter discovered Catholicism and became a nun cracking errant solid children in the head with her ruler.

 

[neogothboy74]

I don't know why they never made a movie but I'm glad they didn't. For one thing, I don't think DS9 would have had the closure that it does in the finale if they knew they were making the movie. Characters died (Gowron, Weyoun, Damar, Winn, Dukat / Sisko - well, sort of). Characters left (Garak, O'Brien & family, Odo, Worf, Martok). The war ended. So much happened in those last 10 episodes...and I think they would have held back if they knew they were making a movie.

Also, I LOVE the DS9 Relaunch books and I'd rather have them then a random movie that would mess it all up. But that's just me.

 

[Joshonator]

The show basically covered itself so thoroughly, there isn't really any room to squeeze in a movie, unless it had no effect on the plot. But then it wouldn't be any good anyway.

 

[jojolimited]

I need to go out and purchase the Avatar books, plus the Section 31 novel involving Bashir.

 

[Dusty Ayres]

Did paramount have some kind of aversion to good writing?

Absolutely they do. Case in point: Abrams' Trek.

I have no doubt that DS9 could have been both the best, and most financially successful Trek movie. All they had to do was bring back the Dominion for round II of the War and market it as a LOTR-esque epic, and put the same dollars behind promoting it as they did with the Abrams Trek.

Everyone loves a great epic space movie, and DS9 has the perfect setting for that already established. But Paramount squandered that potential.

According to you. But only to you.

The fault in this case lies with Paramount, The Great Unwashed Mundane Masses (especially the black community), the mass media (entertainment sector), and the TV stations that showed DS9.

In order:

*Paramount-Did not do enough to promote the show as it should have (as an equal show with TNG, the same way that MGM pushed both Stargate SG-1 and Stargate: Atlantis).

*The Great Unwashed Mundane Masses (especially the black community)-For whatever reasons (show set on a space station, Afro-American series lead, no cuddly characters), nobody was able to take DS9 to their bosoms as they were able to take TNG. The black community in particular didn't even seem to care or notice, nor did the black media (why did I have to learn about DS9 through OMNI & Starlog, and not Ebony or JET?) Why all the coverage of Martin Lawrence acting like a big fracking clown on his show, and of D.L. Hugeley, etc (especially after everybody was supposed to be tired of seeing Afro-Americans only in sitcoms?)

*The Mass Media (entertainment sector)[/CODE]-again, (and with the exception of TV Guide) where were they? Unless you happened to read Starlog, Sci-Fi Magazine, Starburst, Dreamwatch and other sci-fi media mags, there was no coverage! Same factors as mentioned in Point II?

*The TV stations that showed DS9-what happened to making Star Trek an event? Why all of the airings of the show at odd times of the week or weekend? And why not air both TNG and DS9 on after each other like the Toronto TV station City-TV did?

These are the real reasons DS9 'failed' and didn't become a movie series. Not because of what you said, and not because of the new movie. So stop blaming Abrams for what happened.

 

[Kira Nerys]

To watch a Ds9 movie would requie a knowledge of the series .TNG or a movie on the original series makes more sense both financial and both are more popular .

 

[DCTrekFan]

The best written trek series, with secondary characters who were greatly developed, not to mention the primary ones.

Did paramount have some kind of aversion to good writing? Would it not have been nice to see what happened after WYLB, although i've been getting into the relaunch novels which unlike most trek novels do not suck horribly (especially love a stitch in time, but then again i'm a garak-o-phile).

Really, I think if any incarnation of trek had the potential to get decent award nominations, it owuld be this one...oh well, no use dwelling on what might have been.[/QUOT

I think I answered this years ago. There was plans for a DS9 movie. It was to have some Voyager cast members in it as well. The problem was that Berman did not want Sisko in the movie. That's right, no Avery Brooks, and that caused some concern with some of the suits at Paramount.

 

[NewHeavensNewEarth]

You might as well say something if you're going to bump a thread up that's 10 years old.

 

[Kor]

You might as well say something if you're going to bump a thread up that's 10 years old.

I think it was included it within the quote block.

Kor

 

[Armus]

A DS9 TNG crossover movie, with a few TOS characters thrown in, would have been great...in 2002.