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Why was Indiana Jones upset at the end of Raiders?

That's a pretty big supposition. A shitty little bar in Nepal, and for all we know Indy is the only one who knew where she was.

It's not that that big of a leap. It's heavily implied Marion got stuck in Nepal after Abner died, when she didn't have enough money for passage home. So all the Nazis have to do is go to Abner's last known destination and start poking around for Americans. Of course, Indy didn't know where he was either, they hadn't spoken in 10 yearsr. He mentions rumors about Asia, and then he tells Marcus he thinks he knows where to start looking. Either his first guess was right or he did some sleuthing during the travel montage. She's not hiding, they will find her eventually.
 
If it were that easy, you'd think they'd have her already. Instead of having to resort to following a guy who might not even know where she is.
 
Is the Ark actually an analogy for nuclear weaponry?

A battery if anything?
I don’t know why any supernatural force would kill a person who puts his hand up to save a relic from toppling…but a simple battery doesn’t care.

Indy, like his actor, always seems in a bad mood. Ford should play Nick Saban—they are so alike.

Adam Savage certainly wasn’t in a good mood after that shock.
 
Mmm, yeah, but does it though? Seems like a blatant invitation to a religious world war. The United States is in possession of an actual, authentic artifact of God himself. I can't see that ending well.

Indy would argue it should be available for all people but the Nazis. The thing being that the Ark ISN'T the One Ring and a weapon but a a holy item of the Hebrew God (or God in general). It can protect itself and cannot be misused, which is something Indy comes to understand.
 
Err, about people who potentially don't believe Indiana at the end of the movie: how they can explain the island full of Nazi equipment and no Nazi soldiers around..?
 
Err, about people who potentially don't believe Indiana at the end of the movie: how they can explain the island full of Nazi equipment and no Nazi soldiers around..?

Just because they don't have an explanation, that doesn't prove that the explanation they're offered must be true. It just means they don't know what happened. They have Indy and Marion's anecdotal account, but it's a fantastic tale with no objective corroboration. Of course they're not just going to blindly accept it as fact, nor should they. It'll just be another unsolved mystery on the books.

I mean, it's not like there aren't similar mysterious disappearances in world history, like the fate of the Roanoke colony or the Marie Celeste (though that "mystery" was largely an invention of sensationalist media embellishing the facts to make it seem stranger than it was). People came up with all sorts of theories for those, but no single explanation was accepted as unambiguously true.
 
Just had an odd thought - Belloq's face exploded while he was standing over the open ark. There are probably chunks of him in there...
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If it were that easy, you'd think they'd have her already. Instead of having to resort to following a guy who might not even know where she is.

The Nazi communique was intercepted the day before, the Nazi's have only just begun looking.
 
^ I would say..yes, if their reasons for opening / using it stood in opposition to its intended purpose, hence the reason why all of the corrupt Ark party were destroyed, even though Belloq was the one responsible for opening and attempting to use it.

Remember, Indy told Marion not to look. Which implied that the Ark would simply destroy everyone within range, regardless of intent. That's the vibe I got from that scene - when opened, the Ark just kills everybody.
 
Remember, Indy told Marion not to look. Which implied that the Ark would simply destroy everyone within range, regardless of intent. That's the vibe I got from that scene - when opened, the Ark just kills everybody.

Which is also why the first things to be destroyed were the cameras which were filming it. They're machines but were destroyed all the same, because their purpose was to observe the Ark.
 
Err, about people who potentially don't believe Indiana at the end of the movie: how they can explain the island full of Nazi equipment and no Nazi soldiers around..?

They cannot. Evidence gathering obviously includes careful observation, and with Jones and Marion's testimony, an island of missing Nazis only leaving equipment, no U.S. forces responsible for arriving at the island to fight or capture Nazis (who were not there), once has to conclude Jones and Marion were telling the truth. Then again, the government agents were pretty atheistic / antagonistic toward religion, and were likely not alone in that bias about the Ark (or any other religious artifact / meaning, etc.), so they were already primed to disbelieve any answer that was not a black and white, "Random U.S. boat arrives / soldiers save Americans / kill bad guys" answer, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Remember, Indy told Marion not to look. Which implied that the Ark would simply destroy everyone within range, regardless of intent. That's the vibe I got from that scene - when opened, the Ark just kills everybody.

I believe Jones surmised (on the spot) he (and Marion) should not look at the Ark's effects if someone tried to use it for evil purposes. At no other point in the film did Jones (or Brody, Sallah, et al.) mention that there would be a price to pay for looking at the Ark's contents or effect, so Jones (when observing the light and smoke coming from the Ark after Belloq's ceremony) assumed it was not what was expected, or how history explained its use. So the Ark's punishment would be to anyone witnessing the blasphemous possession / opening / use; Jones could not take the chance that the two innocent people there would be spared.
 
I don't know if it has already been answered in some other post: is it explained in some novelitation or similar what happens between the ceremony where the Ark is opened and Jones' arrival in the United States?
 
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It's not that that big of a leap. It's heavily implied Marion got stuck in Nepal after Abner died, when she didn't have enough money for passage home. So all the Nazis have to do is go to Abner's last known destination and start poking around for Americans. Of course, Indy didn't know where he was either, they hadn't spoken in 10 yearsr. He mentions rumors about Asia, and then he tells Marcus he thinks he knows where to start looking. Either his first guess was right or he did some sleuthing during the travel montage. She's not hiding, they will find her eventually.
The Raven bar was her father's. He was using it to save money for his next expedition. He'd suspected before he died that Marion Ravenwood would try to sell his artifacts, so apart from the headpiece, he buried the rest under the bar. She wasn't aware of it, but went back for them at some later time. Also Mohan had been his employee before he continued to work for Marion. So at least some people would have probably known this was Abner Ravenwood's last known place
 
The Raven bar was her father's. He was using it to save money for his next expedition. He'd suspected before he died that Marion Ravenwood would try to sell his artifacts, so apart from the headpiece, he buried the rest under the bar. She wasn't aware of it, but went back for them at some later time. Also Mohan had been his employee before he continued to work for Marion. So at least some people would have probably known this was Abner Ravenwood's last known place

Is that from the comics? I actually own the omnibuses but haven't read them all yet.
 
Is that from the comics? I actually own the omnibuses but haven't read them all yet.
Yes. Used to read Indiana Jones comics when I was younger. Sadly had the first miniseries, but like so many things, long gone now. I gave up comics, too expensive an addiction. But it's also all kept on the wiki.
 
Wasn't there some deleted scene in Raiders where the translator Indy took the Medallion too with Sallah outright tells Jones that he must not look into the Ark?
 
At no other point in the film did Jones (or Brody, Sallah, et al.) mention that there would be a price to pay for looking at the Ark's contents or effect

I think that would depend on whether any of them intended to actually open the Ark, even if they found it.
 
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