Why Some Fan are dissing ST XI before its Release in May?

[Finnegan]

I'm a Star Trek fan. Maybe not as passionate like others, but I'm a just as faithful like everybody else.

I just want to understand why are some fans are being so spiteful about a movie that won't be release until May 8.

Some people are truly nitpicking the movie based on a two minute trailer.
A Two Minutes Trailer??????

Just explain it me.

Discuss. That's all.

They were nitpicking it even before the trailer was released.
New Trek on the way--and some people act like it's the end of the world.
Go figure......

 

[Sharr Khan]

I would also remind everyone that it is NOT just the trailer...we have several scene descriptions of various parts of the movie that reinforce that the characters have been SEVERELY changed from what they were.

Not really, if anything those descriptions clicked for me about "who the characters" and rang as true to type. "Severely", is all a about a point of view bolstered by one's preconceived idea as to who and what these people are "supposed to be" or were before we met them.

Granted simply because there are new actors in the role does bring a that actors own view of "who their character" is to the table - but that's the art of acting.

Sharr

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

I just want to understand why are some fans are being so spiteful about a movie that won't be release until May 8.

I find it equally -- if not more -- disturbing that people who are uninterested in the movie are being painted as abnormal or spiteful in some way. As if cheerleading for a movie none of us has seen is somehow more normal or appropriate than seeing a trailer and saying, "That doesn't look interesting to me."

Sure, there are some people who seem irrationally upset, but those are the minority. And that's to be expected when we have been encouraged for decades to heavily invest ourselves in this mythos.

Now, someone is changing the rules on us.

Maybe the new movie will kick ass. Maybe it will be shit.

Getting excited about the new film is no more normal than finding it uninteresting or getting upset that one's favorite show is currently undergoing potentially radical alterations.

I'm going to see the movie, to be sure, but it's going to have to earn my approval. The trailer alone did not accomplish that mission.

 

[Neopeius]

I just want to understand why are some fans are being so spiteful about a movie that won't be release until May 8.

I find it equally -- if not more -- disturbing that people who are uninterested in the movie are being painted as abnormal or spiteful in some way. As if cheerleading for a movie none of us has seen is somehow more normal or appropriate than seeing a trailer and saying, "That doesn't look interesting to me."

Can we end this thread now, or is there more bashing to be done?

Edit (for clarity): Sam Cogley is right.

 

[SGCSG1]

I'm a Star Trek fan. Maybe not as passionate like others, but I'm a just as faithful like everybody else.

I just want to understand why are some fans are being so spiteful about a movie that won't be release until May 8.

Some people are truly nitpicking the movie based on a two minute trailer.
A Two Minutes Trailer??????

Just explain it me.

Discuss. That's all.

It ain't brain surgery. I didn't much like what I saw--the trailer made me LESS interested (not MORE--LESS interested) in seeing the movie.

How hard is that to understand?

It's not hard to understand. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. That trailer makes Trek look NEW, EXCITING, FRESH, ORIGINAL - spectacular. The cast is terrific and the production values are about 10 times better than any Trek film ever made. 'I don't like it'....WTF?

 

[darkwing_duck1]

I would also remind everyone that it is NOT just the trailer...we have several scene descriptions of various parts of the movie that reinforce that the characters have been SEVERELY changed from what they were.

Not really, if anything those descriptions clicked for me about "who the characters" and rang as true to type. "Severely", is all a about a point of view bolstered by one's preconceived idea as to who and what these people are "supposed to be" or were before we met them.

Granted simply because there are new actors in the role does bring a that actors own view of "who their character" is to the table - but that's the art of acting.

Sharr

Kirk the drunken bar letch?

Uhura the snobby borderline racist?

Scotty the animal abuser?

Everyone's ages being swapped around?

Those don't "ring true" to the characters I know!

Then there are the glaring omissions...Kirk on Farragut, Gary Mitchel, Kirk's time on Tarsus IV, et al.

 

[Zachary Smith]

I'm a Star Trek fan. Maybe not as passionate like others, but I'm a just as faithful like everybody else.

I just want to understand why are some fans are being so spiteful about a movie that won't be release until May 8.

Some people are truly nitpicking the movie based on a two minute trailer.
A Two Minutes Trailer??????

Just explain it me.

Discuss. That's all.

It ain't brain surgery. I didn't much like what I saw--the trailer made me LESS interested (not MORE--LESS interested) in seeing the movie.

How hard is that to understand?

It's not hard to understand. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. That trailer makes Trek look NEW, EXCITING, FRESH, ORIGINAL - spectacular. The cast is terrific and the production values are about 10 times better than any Trek film ever made. 'I don't like it'....WTF?

Exactly my point. To ME, it does NOT look "new", "exciting", "fresh," and FAR from original. (did you read my more detailed comments in a later post?). As far as the cast, I have NO IDEA if they are "terrific" or not--and neither do you. You can't tell from a 2 minute trailer

Let me ask you a question: How old are you? I don't mean this in a denigrating way at all. My point is that I've been watching movies since the 1960's and what LOOKS "new" and "exciting" and "fresh" and "original" to you may be ALL those things--TO YOU. To ME, as someone who has been watching movies for more than 4 decades, it looks MANIPULATIVE, TEDIOUS, CLICHED and THEMATICALLY THREAD-WORN as well as CYNICALLY-ENHANCED and spruced up for the "Whiz-BANG SPeCiAl EfFeCtS ArE ToTaLlY KEWL, DUDE!" crowd...

Do you suppose it's possible we might BOTH be right?

 

[JNG]

Some people are truly nitpicking the movie based on a two minute trailer.
A Two Minutes Trailer??????

Just explain it me.

There is room for a lot of imagery in two minutes--still more by implication. If you're suggesting that someone isn't allowed to have opinions on the film based on actual footage from the film, that wouldn't seem to follow. You use the word "nitpicking," but I don't know what you are referring to; I wouldn't call, for example, people disliking the redesign of what was probably the most famous fictional vehicle of all time picking a nit, as it's a big part of the film. What would you consider a nitpick and what is a valid, full-scale criticism?

 

[M'Sharak]

I just want to understand why are some fans are being so spiteful about a movie that won't be release until May 8.

I find it equally -- if not more -- disturbing that people who are uninterested in the movie are being painted as abnormal or spiteful in some way. As if cheerleading for a movie none of us has seen is somehow more normal or appropriate than seeing a trailer and saying, "That doesn't look interesting to me."

Can we end this thread now, or is there more bashing to be done?

Edit (for clarity): Sam Cogley is right.

Sam is right, and so are you: we don't really need another bitchfest, which is what I see this thread already turning into. I haven't recovered yet from the last two or three; hell, I've probably still got paperwork to do.

I'll just close this.