And sometimes people who write fanfic become new writers on a franchise they love.
Why is toxic fandom destroying everything?
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And sometimes people who write fanfic become new writers on a franchise they love.
The Abrams films are the ones I like the least. One of my long time close friends says they are the best thing Star Trek since The Voyage Home. Surprise. We're still friends.
It wasn't Abrams. It was Lindelof.Then Abrams was like, "It's my second film, I must do Khan. You gotta do Khan in the second film. I don't make the rules."
I was not expecting the twist at the end.
Abrams could have overruled him.
Possibly but they had already taken too much time with like 3 drafts. Getting in to production was more needed.
Yup. I can't remember which one scored a 10 on the Trek fan meter on the BTS in 09 but they were all considered fans.Weren't those three the Trekkies on the team?
Be careful what you wish for.
Abrams developed an appreciation as he worked on it but he was not a fan coming in. That grew on him. He wasn't pushing for Khan.
It's Abrams saying it.
When is this? All I read was the writers pushing for it. Haven't listened to the commentary in a while.
I feel like they got off to a good start. ST09 was like a shot in the arm ( but in a good way, haha ). Then Abrams was like, "It's my second film, I must do Khan. You gotta do Khan in the second film. I don't make the rules."
Agreed. That's one thing that peeved me about that. They'd spent a lot of time convincing people of the rebooted timeline, stating that they wanted to do it this way because they didn't want to be burdened by canon, giving them a new opportunity to explore things in a different way. Yet they didn't take that opportunity to tread new ground; they went straight to one of most popular characters of both TOS and its movies. He already got his story told, time for something new! But no, they couldn't help themselves, the temptation was too much. When you reboot something, show me something new, something that wasn't tried the first time around. For Star Trek, that means showing something that wasn't shown during its original run.
But knowing this, it's not at all surprising what they did with SW.
Me either. I'd have to go back and check. For some reason I had thought it was Abrams but that might be wrong, it may have indeed been Lindelof.
Star Trek is constantly trying to recapture it's glory days in TWOK. It's not surprising at all with TWOK, TUC, First Contact and Nemesis that ID felt the need to revisit it in some way.
No, it's not surprising. It's trying to recapture lightning in the bottle because Khan always hits the top ten lists. See also the Joker in Batman.
From what I recall Lindelof was pushing for it, and there was discussion (from whom I don't know) of seeing the Botany Bay in a stinger scene or post credits scene. I also don't regard Lindelof's work as strongly as he also pushed for a full rewrite of Prometheus too.Me either. I'd have to go back and check. For some reason I had thought it was Abrams but that might be wrong, it may have indeed been Lindelof.
Was he the one responsible for the final version of the story? I heard somewhere that the original script was pretty much a paint-by-numbers prequel.
Isn't that exploring something in a different way though? Without the burden of canon they were able to tell a new story about Khan that could never have been told in the prime timeline.
Oh no doubt there. I just find it questionable that they did this right after their explanation for the rebooted timeline. It felt like they in turn didn't have enough belief in their team to do something brand new.
Still Khan though. They could have just as easily created a new story with a new villain without going back to something that already had their screentime.
I don't think it's a matter of belief but looking at what is popular.
It kind of works, but would have worked just as well if he was just John Harrison and was an augment project that Marcus had created to fight the Klingons to match them strength for strength.
Yep--shameless retreads of the franchise's most popular/significant chapters, because dare anyone believe studios and/or certain people would ever break their own ground within the franchise.
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