Why is Janeway worse than Sisko when it comes to ...
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Not true, there are several species the Borg won't assimilate. There are no Borg Vidiians, Jem Hadar and the Borg found little value in the Talaxians, just to name a few.DWF said:
Yes she did she gave them transporter technology to start out with which they didn't have in The Caretaker, yes I agree they would have in time taken over the array's technology, but they are the only race the Bord wouldn't assimilate.
The Kazon don't have transporter technology as far as I remember. Janeway refused to give them anything. It's proven because the Kazon would ram their shuttles into Voyager just to get onboard. None of the Kazon sects had the ability to beam out when the all fell under attack by the Trabe during the ep. where Janeway & the Trabe leader tried to make peace with all the Kazon sects.
DumbDumb2007
Commander
Janeway should have given the Kazon basic Transporter and Relicator Technology. She was wrong not to bend her interpretation of the rules and regs.
By doing what she did she endangered her crew and ship. By bending rules and interpreting them creatively she could have made the first few years in the Delta Quadrant less dangerous for the Starship Voyager. But the network wanted space battles and by keeping the Kazon on as Villians provided more space battles for ratings.
If the show had been better written and better planned then it would have been less slam and bang and a little more like Next Gen with just more action . People who watched Voyager in my view began to tire of the usual space battle at the end of every other show.
By doing what she did she endangered her crew and ship. By bending rules and interpreting them creatively she could have made the first few years in the Delta Quadrant less dangerous for the Starship Voyager. But the network wanted space battles and by keeping the Kazon on as Villians provided more space battles for ratings.
If the show had been better written and better planned then it would have been less slam and bang and a little more like Next Gen with just more action . People who watched Voyager in my view began to tire of the usual space battle at the end of every other show.
Giving the Kazon a transporter & replicator is like putting advanced weaponary in the hands of terrorists. The Kazon would take that technology, over run Voyager, steal it and use it to kill anybody they wished.
Do you know why many fans and most non-fans don't like TNG movies outside of "First Contact"? It's because they were all talk and boring as hell. Voyager is made to appeal to those people that don't normally watch Trek but enjoyed the Borg and action of "First Contact". Voyager was meant to grab an audience outside of the normal Trek fan base. Too finally make Trek cool to the masses that think Trek is just for nerds. That's why a major majority of men on the planet who've never watched Trek still know who Seven of Nine is.
DumbDumb2007
Commander
The character of a former Borg such as Seven of Nine should have bene included in teh first season. That would have been a tie in to the upcoming FC film and it would have brought the Borg onto Voyager earlier. It was a mistake not to even have brought somone like High onto the show right from the start.
I wonder how Janeway would have hjandlked a young early 20 something ex Borg on Voyager.
I wonder how Janeway would have hjandlked a young early 20 something ex Borg on Voyager.
Well, if they hadn't dropped the ball with Kes, they might have never needed Seven.
Kes' super memory was meant to be = to that of Seven's knowledge, while her mental abilities were = to Seven's nanoprobes. Thet fucked up by making Kes' to wise too soon and sticking her in a dead end position on the ship being a nurse. Seven was their soft reboot to correct a character like Kes that failed.
Kes' character wasn't as well thought out as it could have been.
To take full advantage of the whole "Ocampa live for only 9 years" thing, they should've introduced her as a 10 year old kid (physically) and then a teenager (15 or so years old) in S2, maybe 18 or so by S3 and then a young woman by S4. They could've written stuff about how she aged mentally at an accelerated rate to match her body as well.
By S4 she could develop her powers to the point she lived longer (empowered Ocampa live longer) and stop the aging then so Lien wouldn't have to go through old age makeup.
This would mean having three actresses for Kes, but it would stretch out her char more and give them something more to work with.
To take full advantage of the whole "Ocampa live for only 9 years" thing, they should've introduced her as a 10 year old kid (physically) and then a teenager (15 or so years old) in S2, maybe 18 or so by S3 and then a young woman by S4. They could've written stuff about how she aged mentally at an accelerated rate to match her body as well.
By S4 she could develop her powers to the point she lived longer (empowered Ocampa live longer) and stop the aging then so Lien wouldn't have to go through old age makeup.
This would mean having three actresses for Kes, but it would stretch out her char more and give them something more to work with.
Better then being trapped in The Delta Quadrant for 7 years. How many more died in those years then would have if they had not been stuck there?
Like I said, a simple timed explosion would have done very nicely. Once they used it to get home, it would have gone boom while the Kazon were no doubt trying to board it. So you kill two birds with one stone. But again, that would have made too much sense.
And I don't buy the "they didn't have the time to figure it out" reason. This is Starfleet. They're like a whole army of Space MacGyvers. They can build nuclear bombs out of sticks and rocks. I'm sure they can figure the array out in a decent amount of time. And Tuvok is a security officer. He doesn't know jack about that stuff.
It was stated in the episode that it would've taken the crew weeks to learn how the Array worked, and in those weeks they'd be under constant attack from the Kazon without the Array's weapons to back them up. They'd never last that long against constant assault.
So it was either blow it up then and there and get the hell away, or stay an defend it and most likely get killed.
So it was either blow it up then and there and get the hell away, or stay an defend it and most likely get killed.
Dusty Ayres
Commodore
Which was true, because the Company (Weyland Yutani) was trying to do just that, and this point was reinforced in Aliens, Alien III, and Alien Resurrection. And yeah, the nutbar is still a nutbar.
Dusty Ayres
Commodore
And that's exactly what happens in the book Star Trek Voyager:Homecoming;
The tech that Janeway brings back has a Borg contagion that will assimilate everyone on Earth in stages! Seven & Icheb are blamed, and Earth is in trouble
She murdered Tuvix to bring Tuvok, and Neelix back!!!! 
Janeway is no different than Ransom.
If she were a man I'd scream as well.
I'm a woman as well. Do Not Call Me Sexist tm.
Janeway is no different than Ransom.
If she were a man I'd scream as well.
I'm a woman as well. Do Not Call Me Sexist tm.
