I saw this come up on my YT subscription, thought it would be nice for some Olympic Class Ship Porn =D
Why I love the Daedalus class
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I agree. I wasn't saying the claim has a ton of merit. But it is often invoked in these kinds of discussions whenever the question arises why ships tend to look like they do. And to be fair, the TNGTM (which I personally accept as near-canon) contains some statements to the effect that hull shape does matter, even if it does not get very specific. But yes, in the end warp drive and warp physics will work however the production folks need them to.
Someday, I'll be able to nail down what I like about the Olympic vs. the Daedalus. For now, I'll just say it looks good.
I seem to recall Jackill's manual work suggested that different shapes can have impacts on the overall warp field dynamics - the Pense class destroyer is very long and narrow as an example, with a smaller profile to have as a target for enemy ships. Presumably that would also apply to most aliens as well, which might explain why Klingon and Romulan vessels favor winged shapes.
Assuming that theory's true, I'm not quite sure how it would apply to races like the Breen.
As a quick build, a sphere is probably the fastest..
Just churn out sphere and cylinder parts by the dozens.
Just churn out sphere and cylinder parts by the dozens.
I feel like I need an explanation on this. Wouldn't the building inside a saucer be the same as sphere? (Prepares to be utterly schooled regarding engineering since he knows so little about it).
I like the Olympic more than the Daedalus.
The Daedalus' neck looks REALLY fragile.
The Olympic looks pretty stout / beffy in comparison with that stubby neck.
...It really is too bad they didn't choose the spherical-hulled design for the Hiawatha in DIS "Brother". Oh, well: perhaps that's the real difference between a "hospital ship" and a "medical frigate"?
(Plus, I actually like the half-saucer design better. With the long spine and the bolt-on hospital containers, the sphere-hulled version looked a bit too familiar. Can't have two Discoveries in the same show!)
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(Plus, I actually like the half-saucer design better. With the long spine and the bolt-on hospital containers, the sphere-hulled version looked a bit too familiar. Can't have two Discoveries in the same show!)
Timo Saloniemi
I liked the Hiawatha Class as well, but I udpated and turned it into the Official UFP Government run Mail/Cargo/Passenger StarShip design in my head canon.
Daedalus Class was not designed for a combat role?
I guess it depends. If contemporary to NX-01, the design is suspiciously missing identifiable gunports or missile/torpedo tubes. If a later development, it might already feature more carefully streamlined covers over said, in the style we ultimately see in TOS hiding all signs of weapon emplacements.
If preceding NX-01, the design would almost have to be a warship, or then a support ship of some sort, since Starfleet only ever started doing exploring when gaining the warp five engine.
But the novel continuity makes mention of a ship named Daedalus in the pre-ENT decade, a failed testbed for an engine that competes with Henry Archer's design. Perhaps the failure of the engine did not result in abandoning the design, much as may have happened with the Excelsior? A cheapo testbed design could have been equipped with even cheaper off-the-shelf warp coils for wartime service, and could have been bristling with very visible guns during that time. And then might have been stripped of them again, to be redesigned as a surveyor, as described in the Starfleet: Year One novels. Sisko's tabletop model might represent just about any incarnation of the design.
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I love the version of the Daedalus seen in the Pacific-201 fan film universe
You can explosively form a sphere fairly easily (see video in OP), then you've got a rad shielded pressurized space to work inside of, maybe even living there while working. It might not matter later on in star-fleet history, but in the early UESPA/U.E Starfleet it might matter a great deal.
I liked the one with…what was it…missile tubes on the spine? That Pacific 201 refit could be Archer’s ride….the last version until the Hope type hospital ships. I like Aridas versions as something before Pacific 201’s…which almost looks like 2001’s Discovery
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There's a few sphere designs that Atolm has done that are quite nice.
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/cruiser_daedalus_refit2.jpg
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/galexploration_panoptes.jpg
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/transport_medusan_refit.jpg
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/cruiser_daedalus_refit2.jpg
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/galexploration_panoptes.jpg
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/transport_medusan_refit.jpg
