It's been years since I read Stitch, but was Dukat not involved at some point? I seem to remember Garak taking out Dukat's grandpappy. As prefect of Bajor, Dukat's family would've had some pull..
Why exactly was Garak exiled from Cardasssia?
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Garak was the son of Tain and was said to be the next leader of the obsidian order, Garak told Bashir. Tain said on many occasions he should have killed Elim along time ago because he was Tain's biggest danger. Tain had Garak exiled from Cardassia to keep him from taking over as leader because Tain never trusted his son. Cardassian father's are proud of their kids taking power but that doesn't mean Tain was going to allow him the chance to kill him when he takes power since the only way to be the most powerful person in the obsidian order is to kill the current most powerful that would be Tain as long as he is alive.
Option 2 :Tain exiled him because Garak refused to kill his father to take over? Tain wouldn't say he expected garak to be the one to kill him, but he did say he should have killed Garak because he makes him vulnerable because of him. Tain often said the opposite to his son. Garak also said to Tain when he was dying after everything that happened he would still come to his aid and loves Tain.
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Option 2 :Tain exiled him because Garak refused to kill his father to take over? Tain wouldn't say he expected garak to be the one to kill him, but he did say he should have killed Garak because he makes him vulnerable because of him. Tain often said the opposite to his son. Garak also said to Tain when he was dying after everything that happened he would still come to his aid and loves Tain.
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Tain probably ordered Garak's exile because he was concerned for his son's life and wanted to keep him away from typical Obsidian Order machinations. And yet, being the hardass operative that he was, Tain dared not admit this openly, so he thought of an excuse to have Garak exiled that had nothing to do with this. Plausible deniability, as it were.
If Tain was really as uncaring about Garak as everyone thinks, Garak would already have been executed. I think Tain really did care about his son, but didn't want to say it in public. So he made up a reason to exile Garak. Simple as that.
If Tain was really as uncaring about Garak as everyone thinks, Garak would already have been executed. I think Tain really did care about his son, but didn't want to say it in public. So he made up a reason to exile Garak. Simple as that.
It was Dukat's father and he may well have had something to do with it.
I sense Tain is a little like Joseph Stalin; he'd turn on his closest people for something minor. There's something very wonky about the outlook of the intelligence bosses of these kind of authoritarian surveillance states.
Governments have from time to time employed sociopathic types to do the work that is "distasteful but necessary."
Tain may be a hardass, but he is still a Cardassian, and Cardassians value their family. They wouldn't casually throw away the lives of a son or a parent. I don't think even the Obsidian Order would do that.
I figure it was something along the lines of his made up stories. The stories were factually false but meant to communicate the reason.
Based on our knowledge of Garak's personality probably some kind of humanist (Sapientist?) refusal of orders. Garak believes in Cardassian greatness and strict order but he is emotionally affected by unnecessary cruelty.
Based on our knowledge of Garak's personality probably some kind of humanist (Sapientist?) refusal of orders. Garak believes in Cardassian greatness and strict order but he is emotionally affected by unnecessary cruelty.
Cardassians value their family, but to them family doesn't include children born outside wedlock. Tain might have had Garak exiled because he could have been a political embarrassment to Tain for having an illegitimate child.
^ Tain wasn't married, so there's no wedlock to be born outside of.
In this case, "out of" is being used to mean "not within", and you're not within something even if that something doesn't exist. This is not me being pedantic; that's how "out of wedlock" is used. It means anyone whose parents aren't married to each other, regardless of whether or not they're married to someone else.
I actually think this is a good explanation. It would, after all, apparently have been expected, or at least nor out of the norm, for Gul Duka to have have killed his illegitimate daughter. Admittedly, she was half-Bajoran, which complicates the issue, but it does provide some partial evidence that the traditional Cardassian emphasis on family doesn't necessarily extend to illegitimate children.
My impression is Tain took Garak on as a protege as a way to be connected to his illegitimate son without acknowledging him, then Garak did something that Tain saw as a betrayal of his teaching. Whether it was defying orders or taking a position against him or making some sort of career move he didn't approve of, it's unclear.
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