when transporters are down?
why dont they use the transporters on the shuttles or captains yacht
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Because they think we're dumb and won't notice. Because they made a show with so much technological redundancy they struggle to create plausible peril.
That's why I couldn't roll with the last part of NEM, because why not use the shuttles either to "shuttle over" or beam over? Instead it's gotta be Data doing a mad dash. Silliness.
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Stay your tongue, such talk is forbidden by the great council of Trekkies!
Most of us are too dumb to notice, including me. There is(however) at least one episode where the transporters are down, and a shuttle's transporter is used. It's either on TNG or Voy, I don't remember. I also feel like there's at least one episode where they are like "what about the shuttle transporters?"
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Basically, ST:NEM is the only time in all of Star Trek where we might argue shuttle transporters would help...
Generally, transporters cease to work because Unnatural Phenomenon X renders them inoperable; this covers any and all transporters. Defending second place is Devious Sabotage, which usually but not always also covers all the bases (after all, this is sort of the very point). When not, the heroes do try out "emergency transporters" or whatnot (say, VOY "Future's End"). Of course, shuttle transporters also help sidestep Inconvenient Obstacles such as Borg forcefields.
Hard to tell whether one of the above would also cover NEM. Something broke, in the middle of a dense nebula, against a ship that still has "70% shields". Anything short of the thing that broke might well be utterly insufficient...
...Save for the shuttles. Although would launching them have been practical on that time window? Launching an android appeared fairly straightforward in comparison.
Timo Saloniemi
Generally, transporters cease to work because Unnatural Phenomenon X renders them inoperable; this covers any and all transporters. Defending second place is Devious Sabotage, which usually but not always also covers all the bases (after all, this is sort of the very point). When not, the heroes do try out "emergency transporters" or whatnot (say, VOY "Future's End"). Of course, shuttle transporters also help sidestep Inconvenient Obstacles such as Borg forcefields.
Hard to tell whether one of the above would also cover NEM. Something broke, in the middle of a dense nebula, against a ship that still has "70% shields". Anything short of the thing that broke might well be utterly insufficient...
...Save for the shuttles. Although would launching them have been practical on that time window? Launching an android appeared fairly straightforward in comparison.
Timo Saloniemi
Transporters should be banned for human use given the number of clones, monsters, and other dimensional rifts they create..
Holodecks too.
Holodecks too.
It was already comm badge sized by Nemesis. Add in the transwarp beaming formula from a few years later and one tap can send you ridiculously far!Size reduction progression. Within a few years, they'll reduce the size of the transporter equipment to fit inside a comm badge...then it'll be a subdermal implant...
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In that episode they don’t even use them, they just plan to and O’Brien calls them on it.
Because if the ship's transporters are not functioning the shuttle craft transports won't work either.
Duh.
Because the reversed bussard collector infused with the delithium matrix won't permit it.
And usually I never think of it either, but I do recall one time I did think of it, but due to the time flux capacitor and alternate universe I forgot it only seconds later.( until just now)
They're just keeping up the production rule tradition, that of "Rule of Drama", which started in 1966, when they used very long strings to get coffee pitchers to freezing crewmembers because the transporter went out in "The Enemy Within" and nobody acted as if the ship had any shuttles to pick up the stranded crew with because, having noted both Kirks, they did NOT want to see evil doppelgangers rampaging across the ship. And to think this could have been a two-parter and not "The Menagerie"...
Or all the crew thought that they couldn't get anybody out fast enough since a shuttle had only 2 pads and we only see two shuttle bays in the show, of which there's only one or two shuttles in them at any given time but aren't used in episodes... the "main shuttle bay" we never saw was probably waiting for its full complement of shuttlecraft for Tuesday.
Or all the crew thought that they couldn't get anybody out fast enough since a shuttle had only 2 pads and we only see two shuttle bays in the show, of which there's only one or two shuttles in them at any given time but aren't used in episodes... the "main shuttle bay" we never saw was probably waiting for its full complement of shuttlecraft for Tuesday.
Or all notice at the same time. I never picked up on this issue. But to be fair, a third of season six and numerous individual episodes across 80s/90s Trek would otherwise never have taken place.
The stupidest thing about the transporter pin thingy in Nemesis, is that the little transporter device would also have to disassemble, transport, and reassemble itself.
We weren’t supposed to notice...
Reminds me of this headscratcher of a description of the game Star Ruler on TV Tropes: "Eventually, you research how to build Ringworld Planets, blow up stars in an instant, build ships larger than the galaxy, and make ships that can carry itself inside its own cargo bay." Never could quite wrap my head around that last one. Unless of course they meant 'another ship of the same type', in which case it would be a "simple" matter of "the inside is larger than the outside" technology that Starfleet also acquires some time before the 31st century.
I would expect such a device to contain 2 (or more) transporter systems that work fully independently from each other, say system A and B. First system A dematerialises, transports, and rematerialises system B, and a microsecond later system B does the same with system A in turn.
I'm pretty sure it was a one-use device, so I presume it left important parts behind.
Although we've seen other examples, like the future-Borg One who beamed again and again, as well as a novel where Captain Calhoun had a similar thingie to Nemesis but his version worked repeatedly.
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