Abrams has the entire Star Trek universe at his disposal and all he can do is rehash old villains? He could go anywhere he wants but he seems to keeping playing it safe. All right, first movie I guess sticking with a classic villain makes sense to draw in old fans, but relaying on old material is what drove Star Trek into the ground in the first place. I want to explore strange new worlds not the worlds we explored 30 years ago. You can dress it up all you want but it's still the same old same old. Am I the only one who sees a problem with this?
Why does Abrams keep playing it safe?
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Who is/are the villain(s) in Star Trek XII? Let's answer that before discussing whether old villains are being rehashed, shall we?
I apologize, I was unaware the Khan rumors were put down.
Khan is a character, not a story. He can be put into all sorts of different situations - you know, just like Kirk and Spock.
As for "playing it safe," the last movie blew up Romulus and Vulcan, killed Kirk's father and Spock's mother. We visited a new world full of gigantic ice monsters (albeit one with a familiar name) and rewrote history. That's not quite the generic rehash template.
The main reason for the half-assed nature of the reboot and the rehash of Khan, twice in a row, is probably that the studio wants to play it safe. You make these movies more action-leaning to satifsfy the general audience and serve the fanwank to satisfy the Trekkers.
In my opinion this is above all a business decision. The larger the budget the smaller the risk and the smaller the creative freedom.
I've seen a lot of fanboys, rapid they are not.
So Abrams fears fanboys? Guys who are against prequels, recasting and changing continuity??? Hmmm, how exactly does that work?
It doesn't, really.
And 1bulma1? You're hereby encouraged to refrain from taking any further swipes at groups of fans (rapid or otherwise.)
1bulma1
Lieutenant Commander
O sorry...sometimes its had to forget I am not allowed to use such words but I do get scared of diehard fans who act as if they own trek...you should see them ranting on YouTube.... its scary.
We're not all morbidly obese!
It's not hard. If I ask you not to make jabs at other fans, then—quite simply— you don't do that. If I ask you not to post threads which consist no more than a title and a link to an article you haven't even bothered to read, then you don't post those threads. It's not difficult, and I really don't want to read excuses each time I say something. Just stop, when asked to stop.
Reading YouTube comments is at best chancy and often worse than a waste of time. Probably better you give that up, too.
It's usually the same 3 people under different names.
As Chris Pine put it, they're throwing bricks at the window but can't break it because they can't throw hard enough.
Rapid means quick. I believe the insult you were looking for is "Rabid".
That's funny. I didn't see a "half-assed" reboot, I saw an exciting, well-done reboot that updated our favorite characters in a good way.
To each there own, I guess.
"As Chris Pine put it, they're throwing bricks at the window but can't break it because they can't throw hard enough."
Pine is astute.
On another thread, "Kewl fx is great!" and "Nimoy is senile." are the new memes.
Killing Vulcan and Amanda; and changing the timeline isn't playing it safe.
Nero wasn't a Classic tm villian.
Khan isn't in the next movie. tm
Cheers!
Pine is astute.
On another thread, "Kewl fx is great!" and "Nimoy is senile." are the new memes.
Killing Vulcan and Amanda; and changing the timeline isn't playing it safe.
Nero wasn't a Classic tm villian.
Khan isn't in the next movie. tm
Cheers!
Well, the folks he's referring to are likely to quickly post a response to a headline of an article, they didn't take the time to read.
It only matters though if we see it affect the characters down the road. If it never affects who the characters are then it really wasn't a big deal.
I like the job Eric Bana did with the character, but Nero was just a retread of Khan and Shinzon. A bad guy with a big-pop gun and an axe to grind with a member of the crew.
We did see it change a character, Spock was so stressed out, he could've killed Kirk
Nero's beef was with Spock Prime, he's not a member of the NuEnterprise crew.
But will it have any effect on the character or the universe beyond the moment? If they never plan on playing out what the destruction of Vulcan meant to the Federation or Spock, then it becomes pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things.
But his beef quickly became with nuSpock. Even says he should have killed him while he had the chance.
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