Works for me. The books have been the best thing about Trek since about '99 or so.
Why Do we Need More Trek?
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Works for me. The books have been the best thing about Trek since about '99 or so.
I'm pretty much in the same boat, though a little more severely. I was and remain a big fan of TOS; I like TNG; and I don't really care for DS9/VOY/ENT.
A couple of years ago, I thought that new Trek efforts might be dead (which didn't bother me, since I remembered being a fan in 1976 when it was similarly going nowhere and there was nothing but TOS [well, and TAS], and that was enough).
However, I find myself liking what I see about this movie. Getting in touch with "Ur-Trek" seems a good move. I'm casually optimistic about the new movie (as I was for ENT, which had somewhat similar promise, before it deservedly crashed and burned). I wish it well and hope that it honors the pre-TOS era as it can and should be portrayed.
But I won't be crushed if it doesn't. It can't change the original series - that's nicely preserved and looks better than ever due to DVD (the original DVDs, not the TOS-R ones).
At this point, I do WANT to see this movie. It's the most intriguing thing to happen in the Trek universe since the launch of TOS itself. I can't imagine even skeptics can say they aren't at least a bit curious about how this will turn out. Nothing has been like this has been done before in Trek. Not TNG, DS9, VOY, or even ENT.
If it's good, I suppose it will create a Jones in me for more of the same. In other words, this movie may be what makes me NEED more new Trek adventures. It would be the gateway drug, turning want into need.
If it's good, I suppose it will create a Jones in me for more of the same. In other words, this movie may be what makes me NEED more new Trek adventures. It would be the gateway drug, turning want into need.
because its fucking awesome!!!! ha ha as long as they keep the moral controversy and character diversity/ for me the show could go on forever, but to be honest DS9 shouldn't be called a star trek series!! it was good and all but the it was more like a different show completely, it was as much as star trek as battlestar galactica!!
but who cares lets get married!!!
You mean, except for the part about it taking place in the Trek Universe - with Trek races, Trek devices (like the Federation and Starfleet), established Trek characters from TNG, Trek technology, etc.
Yep. Other than those little nits is was exactly like Battlestar Galactica.
Not that that would be a bad thing. If there is one improvement I would make to DS9, it would be the inclusion of Jamie Bamber in a towel.
Yep. Other than those little nits is was exactly like Battlestar Galactica.
Not that that would be a bad thing. If there is one improvement I would make to DS9, it would be the inclusion of Jamie Bamber in a towel.
Isn't Nana Visitor supposed to appear in the final season of BSG?
Maybe they are the same show!
I just hope we don't see Nana in (or out of, for that matter) a towel.
Yep. Other than those little nits is was exactly like Battlestar Galactica.
Not that that would be a bad thing. If there is one improvement I would make to DS9, it would be the inclusion of Jamie Bamber in a towel.
Isn't Nana Visitor supposed to appear in the final season of BSG?
Maybe they are the same show!
No. It's the same show as Voyager. Only lots, lots better.
Nana is is simply making a crossover episode into Ron Moore's version of Voyager.
^ Nah...
Seriously, having seen BSG and (presumably) DS9, haven't you ever thought about how Voyager would have turned out had RDM stayed?
I really believe that alot of what RDM wanted to do with Voyager ended up getting channeled into BSG. Only without Berman hanging over his shoulder insisting that things like intergalactic wars wrap up in 10 minutes or less with a happy shiny ending by roll credits, he had free reign to make it just as gritty as he wanted it to be.
Seriously, having seen BSG and (presumably) DS9, haven't you ever thought about how Voyager would have turned out had RDM stayed?
I really believe that alot of what RDM wanted to do with Voyager ended up getting channeled into BSG. Only without Berman hanging over his shoulder insisting that things like intergalactic wars wrap up in 10 minutes or less with a happy shiny ending by roll credits, he had free reign to make it just as gritty as he wanted it to be.
Oh, absolutely.
Which is why I'm really glad he left Voyager.
No amount of his input on Voyager would have made it as good as BSG, so the future unfolded exactly as it should have in this case.
Really, comparing DS9 to BSG is like comparing "Tom Corbett" to "Star Trek." There are resemblances, no question.
Oh, absolutely.
Which is why I'm really glad he left Voyager.
No amount of his input on Voyager would have made it as good as BSG, so the future unfolded exactly as it should have in this case.
Agreed.
It's been really nice to see what could be done in a universe that didn't have any happy-shiny ending requirements hanging over the writers.
I think BSG...and to a lesser extent, Firefly, showed us.
DS9 took the concept of grit as far as it could be taken within the confines of what is considered to be Acceptable Trek Writing (although as you can see, not everyone thinks it should have been taken as far as it was.
)BSG has shown us what a show could be when those requirements were removed completely.
In that case, it would be better if you said that you were "very pleased."
It'd be nice to see (and maybe we will...? though it would instigate a lot of bitching after) a Star Trek which didn't have any requirements forced upon it other then just to be good storytelling.
Sharr
Star Trek XI is likely to be the closest thing we'll get to that for the foreseeable future.
The "down and dirty" or "nitty-gritty" part is why I could never really get into BSG. I also think it is why the latter ST series didn't work very well. They strayed away from Gene Roddenberry's original vision of a more positive future. GR's universe was full of optimism that no matter what happens we will rise to the occasion and triumph.
The latter series showed too much reality and too many of our flaws... the "glass became half-empty" instead of "half-full".
What do you think?
The latter series showed too much reality and too many of our flaws... the "glass became half-empty" instead of "half-full".
What do you think?
I thought there was a good balance there. I think it's been pretty well laid out that a lot of people didn't want to be part of the Federation hence loads of independent human colonies showing up. DS9 and VOY (I assume this is what you're pointing to) also took place outside the Federation for the most part, which was part of the point of both shows lest we think that the Federation was everywhere.
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