Why do democrats get satirised less on TV?

[Sci]

But when specific Hollywood movies or TV shows are about politics they almost always lean left(with the exception of a few genres). Are there any Republican analogues to the The West Wing, Commander in Chief,

24, obviously.

Also: Commander in Chief was about a political independent serving under a Republican who becomes President, and who retains the prior President's Republican aides.

And it would help if Republican political works (The Half-Hour News Hour; An American Carol) didn't suck so much.

As for the claim that "Hollywood" is liberal... Yeah, at least a plurality of creative types are liberal. But they're all employees of giant corporations -- and giant corporations and their executives, of course, lean conservative. So let's not sit here and pretend that "Hollywood" is just in control of some vast left-wing conspiracy.

 

[marksound]

As for the claim that "Hollywood" is liberal... Yeah, at least a plurality of creative types are liberal. But they're all employees of giant corporations -- and giant corporations and their executives, of course, lean conservative. So let's not sit here and pretend that "Hollywood" is just in control of some vast left-wing conspiracy.

But saying "nuh-uh" doesn't necessarily make it so.

And just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean that people aren't out to get you.

 

[Venardhi]

Are there any Republican analogues to the The West Wing, Commander in Chief, The Ides of March? I can't think of any.

You clearly haven't watched any of these things. The West Wing was always pretty even-handed (though viewed from the perspective of a Democratic administration), Commander in Chief was from a moderate "independent" perspective but tended to lean rightish in a very flattering and empathetic way(probably due in part to the politics of the then-current administration) and Ides of March was all about political disillusionment brought about by the actions of a Democratic presidential nominee(as far as I can recall we never even meet a Republican in the entire movie filled with tons of examples of awful, cynical and self-serving (D) human beings.).

So yeah, shut up.

 

[datagal]

This thread is horrible.

Because?

Because the only answer you will accept is "Because of the vast liberal media." You already have your mind made up.

Stick with TNZ.

Oh God, no.

Wait a minute, didn't Yevetha admit that he's from Romania?
If that's the case, how in God's name does he know more about American politics (he really doesn't) but don't know what DUI means?

 

[Rowdy Roddy McDowall]

Foreigners may not know all our abbreviations, but some (not just Europeans and Asians) have American BS-detectors which we ourselves can lack. Some have lived through the worst of politics and oppression, which is often why they chose to live with us. Their appreciation outshines ours in many ways.

 

[Squiggy]

Foreigners may not know all our abbreviations, but some (not just Europeans and Asians) have American BS-detectors which we ourselves can lack. Some have lived through the worst of politics and oppression, which is often why they chose to live with us. Their appreciation outshines ours in many ways.

They're probably not well versed in American television though.

 

[sidious618]

So long as Republicans stand against gay rights they deserve all the ridicule they get.

 

[Caliburn24]

Are there any Republican analogues to the The West Wing, Commander in Chief, The Ides of March? I can't think of any.

You clearly haven't watched any of these things. The West Wing was always pretty even-handed (though viewed from the perspective of a Democratic administration), Commander in Chief was from a moderate "independent" perspective but tended to lean rightish in a very flattering and empathetic way(probably due in part to the politics of the then-current administration) and Ides of March was all about political disillusionment brought about by the actions of a Democratic presidential nominee(as far as I can recall we never even meet a Republican in the entire movie filled with tons of examples of awful, cynical and self-serving (D) human beings.).

So yeah, shut up.

I'm trying to keep from laughing. The West Wing was quite well written and enjoyable, but even-handed? No, not even close. Commander in Chief? C'mon, the Donald Sutherland character was a mustache twirling caricature, and he represented the Republicans.

Ides of March is different, you're right, it is about political disillusionment. But that disillusionment is mostly due to the nature of the system and the fallibility of human nature. But again, it is about complex, somewhat sympathetic Democratic characters. Is there any recent movies or TV show that have painted Republicans in such a light?

The few sympathetic Republican characters I can recall in recent TV or movies are usually in action oriented stuff. 24, Airforce One, Independence Day, stuff like that. But in movies and shows ostensibly focused on American politics, a sympathetic Republican character is the rarest of minorities.

 

[Venardhi]

I would personally vote for Arnold Vinick in a heartbeat. He and his campaign staff were phenomenally empathetic considering they were technically the antagonists of our main characters and their politics.

I didn't see all of CiC but it seemed like Sutherland was the exception.

Sympathetic Republicans are almost always moderate ones, which might say something about how people perceive the far right. I can't think of many far left Democrats on TV though now that I try.

 

[Yevetha]

Do you like Gary Johnson, he is no moderate, but incredibly honest and nice guy who successfuly governed New mexico as a libertarian?

They're probably not well versed in American television though. ___

I mostly watch american rv on the internet.

 

[Robert D. Robot]

I think it may have a lot to do with who is perceived as being in power as indicated by who is seen more frequently on TV and is more visible making statements in the News. While Obama did win the election, we've since had the rise of the Tea Party on the Right, Pelosi losing the Speakership, and the prominence of several very vocal candidates running for the Republican nomination. No one on the left is really making news and we don't really hear about anyone except maybe Harry Reid and an occasional verbal stumble by Joe Biden. No one really sees Hillary anymore, as she is overseas all the time developing larger ulcers, I am sure. If anyone IS making speeches and statements, they are the ones in the news and giving fodder to the late night comedians and it spreads from there.

We have had Democrats like Rod Blagojevich and Anthony Weiner in trouble and in the News (and although it has been a while, how about crazy James Traficant?), and SNL regularly picks on Obama and sure had fun with Rahm Emanuel before he left the White House, but who else -Democratwise- is on the average person's radar? Also, who got made fun of more than Bill Clinton?

On the other hand, people running for President get scrutinized as they get deeper into the race and more of their dirty underwear gets dragged out into the daylight. And they make campaign speeches about 18 hours a day, so they are bound to start saying some stupid things, even if they are not stupid individuals. And they can be caricatured more easily when certain facts come out. Or when certain unfortunate and intriguing word choices are uttered.

I mean, how can the Democrats even compete for comic airtime with the likes of Newt "Moonbase" Gingrich, Herman "I don't have facts to back this up, but..." Cain, Christine "I am not a witch" O'Donnell, Rick "Ooops" Perry, Mitt "Corporations are people, my friend" Romney, Rick "Santorum" Santorum, etc., etc. The field is currently overcrowded on the Right.


.... and as soon as we get more Democrats back in the public eye (especially next time we have a gang of candidates calling each other names and throwing their own mud in a Presidential Democratic Primary, we'll see more humor again at the Democrat's expense.

 

[Venardhi]

Do you like Gary Johnson, he is no moderate, but incredibly honest and nice guy who successfuly governed New mexico as a libertarian?

I've got nothing against him personally, but I wouldn't vote for him.

 

[Sci]

But in movies and shows ostensibly focused on American politics, a sympathetic Republican character is the rarest of minorities.

Because, to quote Stephen Colbert, "Reality has a well-known liberal bias."

 

[Yevetha]

With regards to social issues or economics?

 

[Skellington]

But when specific Hollywood movies or TV shows are about politics they almost always lean left(with the exception of a few genres). Are there any Republican analogues to the The West Wing, Commander in Chief,

24, obviously.

Actually, I don't think that any of the Presidents was specifically identified as Republican. David Palmer is identified as Democrat early on, and since John Keeler is identified as a political opponent it's reasonable to assume that he and his VP Charles Logan are Republicans. Jack Bauer and David Palmer share friendship and deep respect, but Bauer and Logan not so much. Other than that, it's largely guesswork as the show's creators apparently made a point of not specifying any given President's political leanings. Wayne Palmer would no doubt be left-leaning, and Alison Taylor seems to have left-leaning sensibilities though this is by no means a given. But is does feel like a somewhat right-wing show, or at least it uses right-wing-flavoured tropes such as torture and sinister foreign characters as its bread and butter.

Because, to quote Stephen Colbert, "Reality has a well-known liberal bias."

Political leanings aside, in principle he has a very good point. Objecivivity and balance aren't necessarily the same thing. Dara O'Briain puts it very well, in my opinion:

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[Sci]

But when specific Hollywood movies or TV shows are about politics they almost always lean left(with the exception of a few genres). Are there any Republican analogues to the The West Wing, Commander in Chief,

24, obviously.

Actually, I don't think that any of the Presidents was specifically identified as Republican. David Palmer is identified as Democrat early on, and since John Keeler is identified as a political opponent it's reasonable to assume that he and his VP Charles Logan are Republicans. Jack Bauer and David Palmer share friendship and deep respect, but Bauer and Logan not so much. Other than that, it's largely guesswork as the show's creators apparently made a point of not specifying any given President's political leanings. Wayne Palmer would no doubt be left-leaning, and Alison Taylor seems to have left-leaning sensibilities though this is by no means a given. But is does feel like a somewhat right-wing show, or at least it uses right-wing-flavoured tropes such as torture and sinister foreign characters as its bread and butter.

It's an incredibly right-leaning show, and even its "sympathetic" Democratic Presidents are fairly corrupt. And Jack Bauer is an obvious Republican. (To say nothing of the fact that the show's creator is a Republican and a friend of Rush Limbaugh.)

 

[Yevetha]

24, obviously.

Actually, I don't think that any of the Presidents was specifically identified as Republican. David Palmer is identified as Democrat early on, and since John Keeler is identified as a political opponent it's reasonable to assume that he and his VP Charles Logan are Republicans. Jack Bauer and David Palmer share friendship and deep respect, but Bauer and Logan not so much. Other than that, it's largely guesswork as the show's creators apparently made a point of not specifying any given President's political leanings. Wayne Palmer would no doubt be left-leaning, and Alison Taylor seems to have left-leaning sensibilities though this is by no means a given. But is does feel like a somewhat right-wing show, or at least it uses right-wing-flavoured tropes such as torture and sinister foreign characters as its bread and butter.

It's an incredibly right-leaning show, and even its "sympathetic" Democratic Presidents are fairly corrupt. And Jack Bauer is an obvious Republican. (To say nothing of the fact that the show's creator is a Republican and a friend of Rush Limbaugh.)

All presidents are incredibly corrupt regardless of political affiliation.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Why do you think the US has bases all around Russia? Just to study exotic cultures?

Bzerzinski literally wrote he wants cut Russia up into smaller states.

You say that as if it were a bad thing.

 

[Yevetha]

The US has no right to make decisions about what other countries should look like, also lets not forget Zbiggy is no fan of democracy.

 

[137th Gebirg]

^^^ Fair enough, wasn't implying that it should, but if you think that old man Vlad Putin and his meat puppet Medvedev are the bestest buddies to the rest of the world, I got a bridge in Stockholm to sell ya.